MovieChat Forums > Steven Seagal: Lawman (2009) Discussion > It is faked.

It is faked.

posted 14 years ago by tandjtrainor
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Did anyone catch the episode where the guy was placed in the back seat of the squad car, got unruly, and kicked out the back window?

Did you notice how the window broke?

I had recorded it, and played it over and over in slo-mo.

How long ago was safety glass (or Tempered glass) mandated for ALL windows in cars sold in the USA? Sometime around fifty years ago, I believe.

Safety glass breaks but sticks together, and falls out in sheets held together by the polymer sandwiched between the inner and outer glass sheets.
Tempered glass shatters into a myriad of small pieces without sharp edges, which cascade EVERYWHERE but do no damage.
The window on this squad car broke into several pieces, which flew to the outside of the vehicle. Some were several inches across.

IMHO this was staged, using regular glass to make it easier for the actor to kick the window out.

Opinions?

[–] Masterfulks 14 years ago

I'd have to see it again, but did you see the size of that guys foot?

His foot would likely send large chunks of windows going everywhere. It's not that difficult to kick out those side windows. A guy that size wouldn't need it made any easier for him to do so.

[–] 5535 14 years ago

You may be right, however, I doubt they'd just let the guy kick out a dangerous pane of glass for the sake of the show. They can make sugar glass and other types that break in the right way, instead of having someone kick out a real window. I don't know for sure, but I'd assume that some of the show is faked.

[–] death_jamm_productions 14 years ago

honestly do you really belive the Jefferson Parish police force will agree to undermine itself and its hard work by having stunts like that? comments like yours are an insult to the hard working police out there

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[–] actionone 14 years ago

Exactly. Everyone is forgetting this is a real department and the scenes are shot live. No Police department is going to agree to be part of fake stuff like that. It ain't like we're seeing shoot outs and stuff. This is just mundane standard patrol stuff. Granada is the production company and they do shows like the first 48 etc.

[–] Jaydep 14 years ago

i had a woman break one of my windows with her head once. you'd be surprised how easy it is

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[–] MovieKnut 14 years ago

'i had a woman break one of my windows with her head once. you'd be surprised how easy it is'

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[–] Anadrol 14 years ago

I'm pretty sure Jefferson County Parrish Police Department would be happy to do a stunt like that, provided the funding is right.

They did, after all, uhhhh, agree to have Steven fcking Seagal work with them so that they could film a reality show.

pigs...

[–] mathewlisett 14 years ago

your an idiot, hes been workign with them for a good 20 years , unless they have a time machine and knew that in 2009 there was a thing called a reality show and they were in it...cmon now.

and yes the guys feet were just as big as mine and just about covered the height of the window, and he didnt exactly give the glass a smakc it was more a push.

so by the time the glass has moved enough off the sockets, another bit for it to move and it will break espcially the way it did since it hit itself against the car giving it enough pressure t break.

[–] Cinemaster69 14 years ago

Uh... "Cops" is a reality TV show and it started in 1989... 20 years ago.

[–] Promontorium 14 years ago

So you actually agree they got Steven Segal to work 20 years just for the 2009 debut?

Your point is completely moot. The term "reality show" wasn't used, and even if it was, 20 YEARS, THAT'S THE KEY POINT!!!

[–] DeAd_MiKe_187 14 years ago

^ LOL

[–] Extremist-2 14 years ago

The show is fake, 100%. I have a friend on the Gretna Police department, which is in Jefferson Parish. He never heard about the show and was shocked when I told him about it. I asked him to look into it and he did. Seagal is an honorary officer, but thats like being a junior park ranger. He absolutely has not been there for 20 years! All the scenes are staged, the show has the consent of the Jefferson Parish PD. Seagal is not a real officer, he does not go on patrols or arrest people or anything like that, all the stuff in the show is fake.

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[–] sweetpeanance 14 years ago

In the bastian of corrupt law enforcement agencies (I mean the NOPD is right next door. with an agency who had a sheriff for life who saw himself as being a rock star (the late Harry Lee), where they "deputized" a clown like Steven Segal (who has no discernible ties to Louisiana....much less Jefferson Parish, and certainly does not live there), I'd say they already sold out any credibility that they may have ever had! Would they agree to a stunt? They already have!!!!

[–] mathewlisett 14 years ago

anybody else notice that mid way through this series his tag was changed from chief to reserve chief?

[–] toddp-10 14 years ago

I haven't seen the show but if the description is accurate, then it was a 100% fake

The OP is correct in his assessment. Auto glass will not break in the manner described. Not even close. What he described was candy glass. A common safe glass used in stunts.

Again, just going off his description. But if accurate, sight unseen, he's bang on.

But as someone else noted, not a big surprise. I mean c'mon. The whole show is a stunt

[–] masterandoverlord 9 years ago

1) Louisiana is full of corruption and bullsh*ttery. 2)Steven Seagal is not a licensed police officer in ANY state let alone Louisiana.

[–] nightwatch01 14 years ago

Just being in the mere vicinity of the great Aikido Master Steven Seagall caused the otherwise completely worthless $#ithead bad-guy to be able to inflict great carnage on the window by a mere kick!

Seriously though, the only fake stuff is the bionic-like hyper situational-awareness that the producer (Steve Seagall!) gives the star of the show (Steve Seagall!) as he & the other chubby old guys are joy-riding around in the SUVs.

Amazing how it's always Seagall who notices some suspicious movement by some individual in a group of dark people on a dark street corner, when he's got that production light shining on his face inside the car as it cruises through the ghetto...

I hate to pick on the guy -- he does, and did, some good stuff, but this TV series is not an example. I actually just came to this IMDB page to see if they're filming a second season or not. After seeing the first couple episodes of the first season, I can't see how any Sheriff in his right mind couple approve it for a second season, even if he was personal friends with Mr. -- oops, excuse me, Chief Seagall.

[–] intrepidami 14 years ago

Lol

A. We're talking about a district with Judges with names like "The Right Honorable Skip" (the actual name of a Judge there)

Seagal has always stretched reality as far as his accomplishments. He claimed to have studied under masters who didn't know who he was.

But..Name a reality show that doesn't? Survivor has been exposed, American Idol has, Ghost Hunters.

Do I believe these guys have been hanging out with Seagal for years? Look at them! They're all Soprano Mobster overweight. Fattest police force in america should be the title.

[–] Lord-Z 14 years ago

Actually, only front windows are required to be tempered glass. Some cars have tempered back-windows as well, but not all.

Or so I learned that from an episode of Mythbusters I saw recently.

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[–] justinpi 14 years ago

You just now realized that all "reality" shows are fake? There is no such thing as a reality show.

[–] trickg1 14 years ago

Wow - how much misinfomration can be posted in one thread?

Here's the deal on auto glass:

Windshields are coated with a resin or platic coating so that even when it get's hit, it won't break into big shards. That's why you see windshields where even after a pretty serious impact, it will crackle but it won't shatter and fall apart.

Side and back windows however, have a different design. While it is tempered glass and therefore can take some pretty hard hits and will flex considerably before breaking, they ARE designed to shatter like candy glass. EMTs, firemen, and other emergency personnel often carry a tool that is designed specifically to break out side windows. It's a spring loaded punch and all you do is stick the punch in the corner of the window, fire it off, and the entire window will shatter into pebble sized pieces - that's how tempered glass is designed to break. Glass covered patio tables are also made out of tempered glass so if it breaks, you won't slice and dice up your children - they might get cut, but not from great big shards - just small cuts from the pebble sized pieces that are left.

Getting back to the tempered side windows for automobiles, they are designed that way for easy egress after a collision where you can't get the door open, and in areas where flash flooding is always a risk, a lot of people will carry one of those spring loaded glass breakers on their key chains.

So, the scene in that episode was not faked - that window broke out exactly like it was supposed to.

[–] bluekarma06 14 years ago

Reality shows are "real" like "Natural" means no preservatives...yea right! And Organic is fastly being overused and exposed! It is ALL marketing. Reality shows? There are none! I was on Love Connection many years ago and it was ALL staged! The woman I dated was an ACTRESS hired to play the part! I was told that after the show by a production assistant who felt bad I was embarrassed on the show!

[–] reignoftheapes 14 years ago

Love Connection was faked too?! nooooooooooooooo

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[–] neo_jenner 14 years ago

I guess the OP has never had a broken car window. If you want to break it, it is *really* easy to break. I say a man punch out his window because his dumb ass locked the keys in the car.

It's not hard at all, which is why it is so easy to steal cars. Can you break a thick stick by stepping on it? Then you can break glass.

[–] toddp-10 14 years ago

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