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Why is this movie so hated on?


A lot of the negative comments are not even about the actual story but the behind the scenes crap, like the writers, directors or the actors ( e.g., "The director's name in the title" or "Why cast Oprah?" etc.) Things that shouldn't and wouldn't even matter if it was any other movie. Why is that?




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Half of it's fake and made up. And the half that's made up is used to as political propaganda and lies against Republicans, and that's true the movie is a load of propaganda.

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Did you say the same thing about Forrest Gump?

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Sigh...Forrest Gump is FICTION. He's not a real guy. The historical situations he gets into are supposed to be funny. However, we are led to believe that, since The Butler is based on a man who really was a butler under several presidents, it will actually be this man's story. It's not. They inserted a real person and his family into historical events - only about racism and little else - where they didn't belong. They invented lies about his wife and kids and how he even got the job in the first place! I'm all for utilizing artistic/dramatic license, but this is too much.

Bottom line, it's not good. Just because it's about racism it's supposed to be good? No. Just because Black people are in it, it's automatically good? No. This had the potential to be something great, but it turned out being just a worthless celebrity pet project. It's a slap in the face to the man who actually was the butler. It was dishonest and disrespectful.

The film told us nothing new. Didn't even try to tell the same old tired stories in a creative manner. Yeah, it's great that after so much disgusting racism we have a semi-Black president today. However, the people who lived it don't need the crappy rehashed history lesson. Perhaps it's good for the kids today, who think every single perceived slight is racism, to see what real racism looks like. Other than that, there are few redeeming qualities to this film. I mean, if we had a female president, would you enjoy watching a movie about a maid who ONLY saw sexism and women being abused while she worked at the White House? It's ridiculous.

The casting was terrible and not all of the acting was good. Singers, musicians and talk show hosts are not good, quality actors. A parade of famous people does not make a movie worthwhile. It makes it a joke.

The people you idolize wouldn't like you.

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Sigh...Forrest Gump is FICTION. He's not a real guy. The historical situations he gets into are supposed to be funny. However, we are led to believe that, since The Butler is based on a man who really was a butler under several presidents, it will actually be this man's story. It's not. They inserted a real person and his family into historical events - only about racism and little else - where they didn't belong. They invented lies about his wife and kids and how he even got the job in the first place! I'm all for utilizing artistic/dramatic license, but this is too much.


So did you watch the movie for entertainment or for a history lesson? If you watch any movie for a history lesson, you're wasting your time. Hollywood is mostly fiction. If you want a history lesson then I suggest you visit your local library. Also, nobody ever claimed that the movie was a true story or that it was based on a true story. The movie just claims to me "inspired" by a true story, which means that the story is mostly fictional but the idea for certain aspects of the movie came from an actual person or occurrence.

Bottom line, it's not good.


That's your opinion. I think a lot of people would disagree with you. It was one of the most talked about movies of that year and not all of the talk was negative. In fact, a lot of people actually enjoyed the movie.

Just because it's about racism it's supposed to be good? No. Just because Black people are in it, it's automatically good? No. This had the potential to be something great, but it turned out being just a worthless celebrity pet project. It's a slap in the face to the man who actually was the butler. It was dishonest and disrespectful.


I don't think that anyone is suggesting that the movie is good for the reasons that you suggest. That would be really ridiculous. Also, who exactly was the movie disrespectful towards? The movie was about one black family, who's head was a butler, who happened to work in the White house. Of course they embellished a bit about his personal life to make the film more interesting. Again, that's Hollywood. That's how the movie industry works. Would you rather spend your time and money watching a 2 hr long movie about a regular black man who faces no obstacles in his entire life or a movie about butler who loves his job and comes home to a happy and carefree house-hold, with nothing eventful nor exciting happening in a 70+ year span? I think most people would find that quite boring, which would most like effect the movie's popularity and ticket sales. Therefore having a negative effect on the cast and crew members' careers and the investor's profit. This is why a lot of the movie is fictionalized. Most of the entertainment industry, from movies to books and even music, is fictional. It's show business, not personal so how is that disrespect to anyone?

I mean, if we had a female president, would you enjoy watching a movie about a maid who ONLY saw sexism and women being abused while she worked at the White House? It's ridiculous.


It sounds like you're saying that this movie was simply about a butler who ONLY saw racism and black people being abused in The White House until Obama was elected president. (I'm assuming that that's what your analogy is suggesting). If this is true then you're conveniently overlooking the other themes that the movie dealt with, which had nothing to do with race. The movie was equally about a family and the struggles that exist within that family, who's father worked as a butler in The White House. There were issues such as a strained marriage, adultery, alcoholism, the loss of one son to the Vietnam War and the emotional disconnect and loss of another due to the conflicts and politics between father and son. However, I would find the movie unbelievable if it had centered around a black butler and his family during the Jim Crow and Civil Rights era and it didn't involved racial issues. That is what would be ridiculous.

The truth is the truth. As much as you seem to have an issue with fictionalization, I would have thought that you'd appreciate the realistic aspects of the movie. Racism is a truth that cannot be overlooked simply because you're tired of hearing about it or because some viewers find the topic unpleasant for whatever reason.

The casting was terrible and not all of the acting was good. Singers, musicians and talk show hosts are not good, quality actors. A parade of famous people does not make a movie worthwhile. It makes it a joke.


Again, that's your opinion. I for one, think that the cast did a pretty good job. Was this the best movie that I've ever seen or even my favorite movie of most recent times? No, it's not but then most movies aren't.

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because it's white supremacist propaganda





i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners

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It could have been a true biography of the real butler in question. Instead it was turned into a propaganda piece. Nearly the entire 70s were pieced together with a photo montage that lasted less than 5 minutes, guess they were short on time in the editing room. A great personal story sacrificed for someone's political agenda. This could have been one of the greatest biopics ever, instead it was wasted. A fictional black panther son, the real son dies in Vietnam even though he is still alive today? Mother raped in Georgia and Father killed in cotton field...all fictitious. Like someone else pointed out on here, the real Mr. Allen passed away after this was made, so he wasn't able to protest his life story being misrepresented as a biography when it was 95% pure fiction. I suggest prior to raising a banner and following a cause you learn the real story as opposed to the Hollywood version.

IMO the director should be sued for libel!

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Because white people get uncomfortable when they are faced with what their people do to supress black people's rights.

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Because white people get uncomfortable when they are faced with what their people do to supress black people's rights.


Sorry to dismantle the little echo chamber you live in, but I never owned any slaves, none of my American ancestors did, and even if they had, I'm not living my life in perpetual guilt over something someone else did. No one can help the family, country or race they're born into. So why would "white people get uncomfortable" about it? Pretty sure it's been illegal for over a hundred years. Segregation hasn't existed in my generation either.

We're all free from the bonds of slavery, and anything we experience now in media should just be a history lesson. It's dopes like you setting us all back 50 years.

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Its not about who owned and who didn't own slaves. Its about a nation that allowed for slavery and divided over slavery. No person today should feel guilt over slavery nor should they ignore the major ramifications of Americas slave and segregationist history.

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Well said!

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"shadowfaximile:"
True. We, in a non-racist way, have minority maids, helpers and myself, and my mom, we adore our maids!

"fede":
Hater, you gotta stop holding an earlier generation's evils against us, alright, if ya don';t mind? Okay?

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The way I understood it the producers strayed too far from the truth. Sort of like "Dragon - The Bruce Lee Story."

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