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If you're hot it's romantic, if you're average you're a stalker!


Yeah, another message from Hollywood.
If you're a hot guy stalking a girl you don't know and travel across the country to bump into her, you can get lucky!!!
Course, if you're just the average Joe and try to do the same thing you'll end up in jail.
I wonder how many women find these kind of movies "romantic" but scream stalker in their real life when it happens to them.

While we're at it, anyone know a good romantic movie that does not rely on the stalker device to hook up the guy and the girl?


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that's what wrong with society, looks determine everything.

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You are living proof.

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Alot of women thought Ted Bundy was good looking back in the day. How did that work out?

JennyLovesJensen

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Well yes, do you think he would have gotten away with half the things he did if he hadn't been good-looking?

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that's what wrong with society, looks determine everything.

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meh its a movie lol women love the romance we never see in real life. Its kinda like a fantasy for us i guess you could say. Of course in real life though things are different.

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Sexual harassment is unwanted attention. If you're a good looking guy, you're advances are more likely to be wanted. Common sense. It's up to the guy to sense if a girl is comfortable with any advances he's making and to stop if it is. That's just the way the world works, it's true for girls too. Although men are a lot less likely to report for sexual harassment. Not really a harmful double standard. Just logic you have to apply.

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grabbing tits would be an assault, no girls will like that.
in real life, an ugly guy will likely be called stalker if he does what zac did in this movie

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i once grab dis gurl's arse and ask her who's ur daddy but she reported me 2 hr and i got in big trouble and i wuznt even good-lookin

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LOL stay away from women. Women = trouble. Also, they say quite one thing and do another, which can be confusing ;)

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Palabra

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That's not true simply for the fact that all women do not think the same. I can only speak for myself, but I do not want some random man groping at me regardless of what he looks like. Being good looking does not give a man the right to put his hands on me, nor does it mean I appreciate him doing so. Unless I've let a man know that I don't mind his advances, he better keep his hands to himself.

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>>>Sexual harassment is unwanted attention.<<<

From a logical, rational and objective point of view, sexual harassment is when someone does something to your genitalia without being rape or some other violent act, without your consent. Period!

All these new "definitions" invented by retarded feminists, would have shocked people just 30 or 40 years ago.

And btw., the criminalization of stalking is one of the most absurd legislative abuses committed in relatively recent years. In the vast majority of cases are simply persons who suffer a lot and want their loved ones back. A unilateral break-up is far, far more damaging to the party that doesn't agree with the break-up, than to the "stalked" person (who don't experience any real suffering, just a slight annoyance - just look at how many people commit suicide because of break-up and how many commit suicide due to being stalked - virtually none!)

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Of course they do, out of extreme desperation (due to the other persons's fault and the so called "stalking" is just a phase, which gives the other person a chance... It would happen without any sort of "stalking" anyway, but stupid people can't understand that, they only see the "stalking", not the extreme damage they have done to the other person)
It's more like suggesting that Islamic women kill their husbands (for abuses of course) and that justifies the abusive laws against women in the Islamic world.
Anyway, I didn't ask that... I asked how many people killed themselves for being stalked... That proves who's in greater suffering!
So, I'm afraid YOU are the EXTREME moron!

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1.5/10. One because you got someone to respond to you. And a half because you constructed a proper - if insane - comparison.

Mostly unsuccessful troll is mostly unsuccessful.

You got red on you.
--That was longer than a heartbeat.

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Anyway, I didn't ask that... I asked how many people killed themselves for being stalked... That proves who's in greater suffering!

A better question is how many people have been killed by - the extremely desperate person who wanted them back after a break up?

If there is a break up and one person wants to get back together and the other doesn't, the first person has a problem. A problem that is not the second person's responsibility to deal with.

No one should have to deal with a person or that person's attention if it is unwanted.

That extremely desperate person instead of spending his/her time chasing someone who doesn't want them, should be seeing a shrink or looking for someone who does want him/her.

You want an example of the kind of stalker the law was designed to protect against - look at the character Keith. The one that gets nasty and violent when he doesn't get his way.

You thinking such a law isn't necessary is absurd.

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If there is a break up and one person wants to get back together and the other doesn't, the first person has a problem. A problem that is not the second person's responsibility to deal with.

A break-up has to be consensual in order to be a legitimate break up. Otherwise, the person wanting the break-up has a really huge problem, especially if there's not a very good reason for the break up. That can turn deadly. And anti-stalking laws are not going to help, actually they often have the opposite effect: they're driving people crazy and making them commit crimes they wouldn't commit otherwise. It's probably hard to understand for people like you, but that's what's happening.

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A break-up has to be consensual in order to be a legitimate break up. Otherwise, the person wanting the break-up has a really huge problem, especially if there's not a very good reason for the break up

So what you're saying is, if I want to break up with a guy and he doesn't, it's not "legitimate" and I'm stuck with him for the rest of my life or until he wants to break up?

And/or that I need "good reason" to break up. I just can't decide I want something else for myself? I have to have a reason he "approves" of?

And anti-stalking laws are not going to help, actually they often have the opposite effect: they're driving people crazy and making them commit crimes they wouldn't commit otherwise.

So it's the laws that make people crazy? Not that crazy people break laws?

It's probably hard to understand for people like you, but that's what's happening.

People like me? You mean sane, rational people? Yeah, I find it hard to understand and believe that laws make people crazy as opposed to laws being on the books that have been imposed because of crazy's people's behavior.

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>So what you're saying is, if I want to break up with a guy and he doesn't, it's not "legitimate" and I'm stuck with him for the rest of my life or until he wants to break up?

Legit point. On another note, if the woman is unable to have a stable relationship at all (that is, if she constantly hooks up with guys and cannot stay with them for more than 3-4 months) then it is the woman who has a problem rather than the guys. Just saying

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I would like to know where you live, cdan, so I can avoid that area at all costs. If anyone else there thinks like you, that's got to be one twisted place. You can't seriously believe what you are saying. I'm am going to live in denial and assume you're trolling...I'll sleep better at night thinking that, lol.

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@cdan900

"All these new "definitions" invented by retarded feminists, would have shocked people just 30 or 40 years ago."


Boy,are you ignorant as hell. "Retarded feminists"? You need to shut up and read up on how feminists got the law changed to get violent acts like rape taken a hell of a lot more seriously, and got new laws about it on the books. And, uh, stalking got criminalized precisely because some stalkers would abuse,kidnap, or even killed whomever they were stalking. I mean,get real. And like one poster said up above, I don't give a damn how good-looking some guy is, he has no right to put his hands on me, especially if he's a complete stranger to begin with.
Read up on stslking laws and why they exist:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking


Anyway, I'd like to see this flick--it sounds slightly romantic,regardless.

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What does physical sexual harassment have to do with stalking? Two different things. Anyways I found it funny to have heard 3 celebrities admitting to stalking this year; Brad Paisley, Jason Mamoa and Joe Manganiello all stalked their current wives and girlfriends (Kim Williams, Lisa Bonet and Sofia Vegara) when they were strangers to a pretty strong degree, and I haven't heard much hubbub about it.

"what is your major malfunction numbnuts?!!"

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They were all rich guys so the ladies did not mind. If you are hot and rich a lot of ladies won't mind the stalking. Read up the definition of hypergamy on wikipedia

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Agreed, but in those instances two of those women are more successful than the celebs who stalked them, but maybe it counts because the two guys Mamoa and Mangianello are much younger

"what is your major malfunction numbnuts?!!

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You need to shut up and read up on how feminists got the law changed to get violent acts like rape taken a hell of a lot more seriously, and got new laws about it on the books.

You are comparing two radically different things: one is a deed that involves downright harm and intention of harm and the other is just people who are love trying to be with the loved person.

And, uh, stalking got criminalized precisely because some stalkers would abuse,kidnap, or even killed whomever they were stalking. I mean,get real

You know what? Someone who's extremely determined to kill someone, will do it no matter what! Anti-stalking laws can't possibly prevent a determined person from killing someone, actually it can have the opposite effect: someone who is left by a person they love, is often in extreme suffering. Now, the beloved person trying to use the state against them, on top of their extreme suffering, can be worst thing that can happen to them, the ultimate "act of treason" if you want. And people do kill as a result extraordinarily stupid things(like getting restraining orders, calling the cops, having them arrested/thrown in jail) being done to them by the persons they love.

People got way too stupid in the past few decades and can't seem to understand and accept that people do have feelings and can be extremely harmed by improper "handling" of break-ups and related things. But this is only going to bring more suffering and death, if nothing changes.

Oh, one more thing: you were saying something about complete strangers. Unless you are a celebrity, it's kinda nonsensical to talk about that (extremist feminists may think differently, as their imagination is pretty wild)

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Im an average looking guy and I get to touch girls all the time. You dont go up to a woman and grab her. That only works for really good looking guys, and even then, rarely.

All you do is sit down next to her and have a conversation. Make simple touches when you're showing excitement. Stuff like touching the arm or shoulder for all of a second. Increase the amount of touching as she gets more comfortable with you. After 30 mins with a girl, shes almost in my lap.

I can imagine an ugly girl hitting on me would need to act the same way to be able to touch me. And if I really was not interested, I wouldn't still be talking, and it would never escalate that far. Guys complaining in this thread simply have no game... because its not hard at all.

Even the whole across the world stalker thing wont come off as so if you introduce yourself in the correct way. First impressions are everything.

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Well is she got HIV or any disease from a hot guy then her karma bit*ch flirt.

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Well, it's a big load of Hollywood, too... If a guy goes to such lengths to pursue a woman in real life, she has reason to be creeped out... in the movies, as long as the music stays light and playful, hey, it's sweet! Ho-hum.

Fact is, IF women are more accepting of inappropriate advances made by attractive men, well, that's troubling to say the least, because a man can be nuts, have low self-esteem, lack the necessary knowledge of appropriate behavior... whatever you think the cause of stalking is in any given case... whether he's homely, ordinary, or attractive. And even a homely guy can be charming, amounting to the same thing... just because he has attractive qualities, physical or otherwise, doesn't mean he isn't going to later decide that if he can't have you, no one can.

It's irritating because you just don't know who to trust anymore. But yeah, I've thought the same thing while watching movies... "Holy crap, if he did that in real life they'd call the cops." I actually do appreciate it when I see a more realistic sequence... I can only think of one example, though, and it's not from a romance (In the movie Elf, Buddy gets a restraining order on his heinie after getting into a fight with a department store Santa.)

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I think a factor that is important here is that we assume that good looking people are also quite socially successful and so, yeah, they might be stalking us, but it can't be because they are a socially-weird loner (cause they're hot), but rather it must be something "totally romantic".
The halo effect in psychology is where one good attribute (such as being physically attractive) in a person positively skews our judgement of the individuals' other attributes (such as believing they are smarter, more socially successful, happy etc), and leads us to ignore negative traits or behaviours (such as stalking!). In other words, attractive people are seen as more successful and desirable people, thus we feel safer around them.

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Same thing with Twilight. Edward Cullen stalks Bella at night and all girls think it's romantic. But if he were a fat, balding old man then 'OMG call the cops. Ewwwww.'

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lmao

"Regret is fo' suckas, fo' suckas, fo' suckas. Regret is fo' suckas, bitch."

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Lol, he's also a vampire, which isn't realistic either. I think it's goofy when people try to compare anything from Twilight to real life.

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I think Edward Cullen takes the cake in this area though.

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