'Notorious bondage web sites'
Does anybody know specifically what websites are discussed in this film?
shareIt would have been nice if the director included other producers like paintoy.com. Having a single site to base a documentary on doesn't really add anything to the films credibility.
share@DancesWithPork, Did you watch the movie? Just 12 minutes in they interview kink.com's owner/producer. 28 minutes in they interview backdoorbondage.com's webmaster. 39 minutes into it they interviewed hogtied.com's webmaster. They interview the webmaster of devicebondage.com throughout and many more. Other sites are mentioned through the whole film. If you don't know why they focused on insex.com then you definitively didn't see the film. Maybe you just wanted to promote that site.
As for the movie, it was interesting to me even though I am not into this stuff. After seeing the film I realize how Insex.com really changed that genre of these types of websites. Brent Scott is considered by many, the "Michelangelo" of S&M/B&D films.
The site was shut down in 1995 but at least Brent isn't sitting in a prison like Max Hardcore is right now. And with 35,000 members, he is probably very comfortable.
The site was shut down in 1995 but at least Brent isn't sitting in a prison like Max Hardcore is right now.
Not trying to be a jerk, but your post is ironic for condemning someone for not watching a movie when it is clear that you yourself have never seen a Max Hardcore video.
Max isn't even comparable to anything in the BDSM community. He takes barely legal, vulnerable girls who have no idea what they are in for, and violently *beep* them and physically/emotionally abuses them until they openly sob. He continuously berates them and heaps abuse on them until you can actually see their will break and they zone out into a different place just to get through the experience. But this isn't enough -- he then *beep* their mouths until they vomit, rubs the vomit in their faces, etc. and continues browbeat them post-rape.
In essence, you are watching an actual, horrifying date rape on camera. It actually may be worthwhile for someone studying psychology to see one of these, but anyone who gets off on it is truly a deranged psychopath. People who participate in BDSM would even find this appalling, because bondage/S&M was always voluntary, and the participants get off on it, like may of the ones in this film openly admit to.
The fact is, Max Hardcore belongs in jail (although he is almost up for release now). I don't agree with obscenity trials, but if it is used as a cover to try a sex criminal for rape, then I have no problem with it. share
Max isn't even comparable to anything in the BDSM community. He takes barely legal, vulnerable girls who have no idea what they are in for, and violently *beep* them and physically/emotionally abuses them until they openly sob. He continuously berates them and heaps abuse on them until you can actually see their will break and they zone out into a different place just to get through the experience. But this isn't enough -- he then *beep* their mouths until they vomit, rubs the vomit in their faces, etc. and continues browbeat them post-rape.
Agreed.
I've seen a few BDSM documentaries (the concept itself fascinates me, although I am far from into it) and take for example, Nick Broomfields 'Fetishes', where men (and some women) willingly go there, and PAY the 'mistresses', and tells them what they're into, what turns them on, everything is discussed professionally, to them it's just a job (which they enjoy doing) and the boundaries are never pushed, their own sexual desires are met and they walk away happy. BDSM is essentially about 'role play.'
Max Hardcore is pure scum of the earth, and quite possibly one of the most misogynistic men in history. He offers a job to these girls who need money and are into moderate BDSM, and doesn't actually ASK what they want done to them, but does what HE wants. He makes money from the sick people who sign up on his site, and gives little money to these poor girls, who have no idea what they are in for, the members decide, and Max carries it out with joyful glee (you can see a sadistic smirk on his face as they break, cry and scream, sometimes he chuckles to himself).
The whole concept of BDSM, is that it's CONSENSUAL, I've seen one of Max Hardcores videos out of interest after seeing the documentary, and it's not consensual in the slightest. It was one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen in my life. So therefore, it is Max's sick sexual desires that are fulfilled, and not the participants. No role play is involved whatsoever.
So technically, it's not actually BDSM, but unwilling torture, rape and humiliation streamed live on the internet, and Max made pretty good money for it.
Max should have served a life sentence.
SILENCIO....share