Help me with the ending


Contains spoilers.

At the end, Barbara hugs her mother, says "you're the strong one," and then drives away. What's the meaning of that?

And where do you think Barbara is going at the end?

"Extremism in the pursuit of moderation is no vice."

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She's conceding to her mom that yes, she is "strong", something she prides herself in immensely. But look where it got her. Now her strength will truly be tested for she is all alone, which is where her kind of "strength" got her.

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Thanks. I guess that makes sense of it. When she stops along the side of the road, maybe she considers going back and decides not to.

"Extremism in the pursuit of moderation is no vice."

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I hate movies without resolution at the end where it's left up to the audience to make up their own end. And just as I was saying that to my husband it ended!! The intelligent part of my brain had to think, well, she's not going very far. She doesn't have her purse, or money or credit card or drivers license AND she's in her pajamas!!

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My take on that was that she was starting over completely. Being in her pjs is sort of like her waking up...looking off into the distance and deciding to start completely over.

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As I said, I think when she stops by the side of the road, she may be thinking of going back. But she probably decides not to. The ending does leave you hanging, but I think the person who responded to me got it right.

"Extremism in the pursuit of moderation is no vice."

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At the end, Barbara hugs her mother, says "you're the strong one," and then drives away. What's the meaning of that?

Barbara has realized that "she's her mother" as women often say. We saw hints of that throughout the film: Barb is just as strong-willed and sharp-tongued as Vi, but it's not obvious because Vi's behavior is exaggerated when she's on pills. Barb finally realizes it in the scene where Ivy rushes out after Vi tells her that Charles is Ivy's brother. Barb chases after Ivy and says, "She told you, not me." Ivy replies, "It's the same thing." That's when it hits Barb. She walks back into the house and looks at herself in the mirror by the door, with a look that says, "Who am I?!?"

So when Vi starts going on about who's stronger, Barb realizes it's pointless to argue because, basically, she'd be arguing with herself. So she agrees, and leaves. She knows she can't stay because two Violets would just rip each other apart. She may also be fleeing a truth she just can't or won't deal with right now.

BTW, you can ignore that last scene where Barb pulls off the road, looks at the landscape, and then drives away with a hopeful look on her face. That was not part of the film, originally, and it was never part the play. The producer only added it to the film after test audiences demanded a happy ending for Barb.

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I don't know where you got that from, because Tracy Letts says otherwise:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2014/01/why-august-osage -county-is-better-onstage-than-onscreen.html

EDIT: linked the URL

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Hmmm... I think I need to dig deeper before I know what I think...

I looked again at the URL I posted earlier and noted that it was actually Wells (the director) who supports what I said, not Letts, so it's not conclusive evidence. Your link seems to support what you say, but I note that Letts' statements came on a conference call which Weinstein participated in as well. I can't help but think Letts may have been following the party line as laid down by Weinstein. He can be a very persuasive fellow, as we all know... ;)

I'm not arguing with you, I'm just not sure at this point. The scene didn't feel right when I saw the film, so it was easy to believe what I've heard about it being tacked on for non-artistic purposes. I'll have to look further before I decide what to believe.

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I just watched the film again and I've come around to your point of view -- the "Barb driving down the highway" ending does improve the film.

On first viewing I was so blown away by the "eat your f'ing fish" scene that I was distracted during the "motel/Bev's note/safety deposit box" scene that follows. That scene is more redemptive for Barb than I realized before. She doesn't leave just because it's pointless to argue with Vi, she leaves because she's horrified that Vi's willful pride stood in the way of stopping Bev's suicide.

Barb, newly aware that she's her mother, determines not to go down the same road. Showing her driving her own road helps make that clear, since her break with Vi was so abrupt. I had the advantage of watching the film on DVD and still it took me two tries to figure out what happened, so I can just imagine how shell-shocked theatergoers were uncertain about the original ending.

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I agree, that's what I understood

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I kindof think she will go back and get what things she had there and hug her mum again and then leave for good... Blood is thicker than water ....

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That scene is more redemptive for Barb than I realized before. She doesn't leave just because it's pointless to argue with Vi, she leaves because she's horrified that Vi's willful pride stood in the way of stopping Bev's suicide.


Exactly, Barb saw the devastating results bitterness can cause in a relationship. I felt that Barb was driving back home to give her marriage another try, determined never to become her Mother.



I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not.

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Being in her pjs is sort of like her waking up...looking off into the distance and deciding to start completely over.

Love it!

Meryl Streep is a shape-shifter.

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I hate movies that end without resolution as well! As this was ending I was thinking a good ending would be for Violet to shoot herself.

This was a story about very mean people NOT strong women.

Acting was outstanding
Casting was great

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Well, the sign on the road in the direction she's headed says Colorado or Denver. I think it's safe to say she's headed back to her family. Otherwise, there'd be no point in showing the sign. Also, as far as her pajamas, yeah it could be a new beginning - but I took very on the surface in that, since she's headed home, she's got clothes there. She doesn't need to go back for clothes. And she can have Joanna send her purse if its really necessary.

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The only thing that really bugs me about her leaving without her purse is that the sign said 645 miles to Denver. She's gonna need to buy gas. But it would've ruined the drama of the scene if she had done it any differently, so I can live with it.

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The sign does say Denver - 645 miles or so.

Go Big Red

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Who says her purse isn't already in her truck?! It's in the country, thieves don't abound on your own property :)

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*This response has spoiler alerts*
To all that have answered previously it is all up to the viewers opinion of what everything means. What I took from it was, Barb realizes during the scene with her estranged husband where she asks him "You're never coming back to me are you Bill" then she followed with "I guess I and his response which was something to the effect of "I'll probably never really understand why will I?". To which he answers "Probably not". I think it's at that time she realizes she doesn't really know what's wrong with her. But later in the film when her daughter and her husband drive away it starts to sink in that she is like her mom. It's compounded when her sister responds to her statement of "I wasn't the one who told you it was Mom" with "What's the difference." After Barb's husband, daughter, sisters and the rest of the family take off because of all of the drama she realizes sitting with her Mom in an empty house, with her Mom acting stubborn as ever, that this is or will be her life if she does not change. When she leaves, she's leaving all of the negativity behind that her Mom represents. When she gets to the side of the road and gets out of her truck, she smiles and heads back towards denver. I think it's at that time that she lets go of all of the craziness that was her mother's influence in her life behind. That's just my opinion anyway.

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Strange I didn't get any of this at the end. My happy ending was the mom crying on the stairs with the caretaker woman. It tied to the beginning as if the dad knew his family well enough that the mom would be left alone after he was gone. He knew the craziness that would come and that someone would need to keep things going; cooking etc.

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The movie should have ended as did the play - with Vi alone with her caretaker. As someone else said, her strength isolated herself from everyone.

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I took her reamark "you're strong" to be condescending, to mean she wasn't and you'll realize after i'm gone. Which is exactly what happened when Vi realized she was all alone...

And Barb did pick up something before she left out the door of the house, which i'm assuming was her pocketbook.

Swing away, Merrill....Merrill, swing away...

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The final straw was when Barbra realised that her mum could have saved her father. But Barbra had the good sense to know, in that moment, that her mother's and her father's reasons were complicated .... considering she realised that they were both 'flucked up' .... as she said to her mother.

There is way more than Barbra ever imagined .... in regard to 'truths' coming out during the coming together of the family. She can't judge her mother. And she can't judge her father. Because she hasn't walked a mile in their shoes...

Even though Vi let Barbra in on the 'secrets' involved in Beverly's final act ..... namely the note and Vi not contacting Bev, the motel, the locked box etc. .... Barbra knows that there is more to it than her mother is saying out loud ... there is more for Barbra to work out, with time.

She left her mother amicably ..... with a hug, and a throw away line 'Yes you are the strong one Mum' or some such.

There is a reason why Beverly left a note leaving Violet to work out whether or not she wishes to 'act' on the note, and contact him. Their relationship is complicated and there are probably very understandable reasons why Violet is soothing her pain with masses of pills, and the unbearable behaviour because of it.

I think in that moment, at the end, Barbra realises her parents relationship with each other is way more complicated than she can, at this time, fathom ..... namely in view of the secrets (which her father's funeral bringing all the family back for a brief time, together) ..... revealed. There is stuff there that even Violet has yet to figure out - about herself and about Bev.

It was a mixture of deep emotions and confusion that propelled Barbra out of that door to escape in the truck.... She didn't want to leave her mother in more of a mess than she already was. Hence the hug for her mother and her agreement with her, before she fled.


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After reading the comments, I have to say that I can see how Barb fled without a backward look or stopping to get anything if she was trying to get out of there. However, and I'll probably be quite alone in this, I think it was a rather lily-livered thing to do.

Frankly, had I been in Barb's shoes ... and I kinda am ... I think what might have been the more righteous thing to do would have been to realize that she was very like her mother and possibly accept her fate being there to prop up her mom. But, you know, things aren't usually like that, anyway. Most "Barbs" would have a job to go back to, which would demand that they at least clear things up. And a 14-year-old daughter? Okay, I guess the husband could raise her, and the daughter would probably prefer that. But she also wouldn't want to be abandoned by her mother. What the daughter needs is for her mother to show her that she's the most important thing in her life ... and for the father to show that, too, vis a vis his life. Barb did let her daughter know how much she loved her with the little speech in the back of the car when they went to identify Bev. I guess Barb; could accept her fate and stay with Vi, who might not live that much longer anyway ... or might live for decades more out of spite, lol. But I still think it might have been hard for the daughter. However, summers in that place might have been halcyon. What Barb needed to do was the right thing, which I'm not sure is what she did.

Howver, ... also, there was the little thing, or really the big, climactic, thing, about Vi revealing that she cared more about money or at least besting her husband at his own game or something than saving him. Which in a way makes the movie moot, when you really think about it ... why was Vi worried? Didn't she know what her husband was going to do? I had wondered how she, who had seemed so in love with him, could have taken his death so well. But this suggests she was nuts. And why would Bev off himself? Perhaps he loved her so much, he wanted her to show him that she loved him ... and that if she didn't save him, he would go to his grave with a broken heart but essentially have given up that his beloved was sane.

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