MovieChat Forums > Fagbug (2009) Discussion > Typical of this MyTwitBook generation.

Typical of this MyTwitBook generation.


Seriously, I thought this was a joke (kinda like Joaquin Phoenix' music career) but then I found out that was real.

Really how pretentious can a person be to capitalize on a crime that has committed on them? Hate crime or not. You don't see a rape victim showing off her vagina. You don't see a person who has acid thrown in their face parade around like their beautiful. (Divine's character in John Waters' FEMALE TROUBLE is another story.)

Maybe I'm from an older generation but I just don't get it. Years ago, I was hanging out with a female friend. We both were attacked by two guys while they yelled epithets. She got her purse stolen and I was punched several times in the face (the guys caught me off guard asking for a cigarette)

But I didn't take pictures of my injuries and put it online for everyone to see and say "oh poor thing" or ramble about it on my blog or make a video of it and post it on youtube. I did something constructive about it. We found out who those guys were and waited for them after work as they went to their cars. We got our justice alright. Nothing a nice tazer and a 2x4 can't fix.


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Wow.

The purpose of what she did was not to say, "Look at me. I'm a victim"; the purpose was to continue the dialogue and to get people to talk about and process what happened. If we are silent when injustice happens, we are sending the wrong message.

You are looking at what Erin did as a very selfish thing. I see it as the very opposite; I think it was selfless. She brought light to these very important issues. She gave voice to those who felt silenced. She humanized the victims of hate crimes who are too often seen as inhuman.

She is also sending the message, "I have nothing to be ashamed of! I did nothing wrong! I will not let the hatred of others bring me down!"

And rape victims (because you brought that up) need to process and heal in much the same way sometimes. And sometimes that means that they need to "show off" their genitalia in order to do so. I have seen art that depicts a vagina from the perspective of someone who's been raped, and the anger that she's felt because of it. It can also come through in dramatic art, such as "The Vagina Monologues." These are not ways of exploiting or capitalizing on these crimes; these are ways of opening up discussion so that we can deal with them in healthy ways.

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I agree. I found this to be both a moving story, and a good documentary about anti-LGB hate crime and attitudes in the US.

I really can't understand the mindset of people who opposed the trip or the documentary.

Erin is a hero, following directly in the spirit of the Stonewall Rebellion, combined with an idea smaller but similar to the Freedom Riders. She stood up for herself, stood up for others across the country, and held some people to account (although not the vandals).

"crazyhellboy" by his own admission apparently committed a violent crime instead. I much prefer Erin's approach.

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Very well put. I loved this movie but gotta say one thing. Tampa is a very liberal city and was disappointed to see it as some backwoods hellhole. There is a very thriving gay community in the Tampa Bay area with the largest Pride parade in the South.


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"Maybe I'm from an older generation but I just don't get it."

You are correct in that you definitely don't "get it".

However, it's not because you're from an "older generation". Plenty of people from the so-called "older generation" "get it".

The reason you don't "get it" is because you're an idiot.

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From where did you get a tazer?

... after only reading 3 of your posts, I can tell you're a dumbass ...

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Regardless of all else. It really bugged me and rubbed me the wrong way to see her "re-paint" her car during the course of this film. I saw that less of her making her point and more of drawing attention to herself. It even makes me question if she painted it to begin with.

Let what happened/happens be. Her altering the outcome in anyway makes it artificial and "hokey" If someone washed it off. She should have left it.

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You're right.. Vandalizing her own car was definitely a "WTF" moment in this doc.
This girl seems to love the attention that comes with being a victim.

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The repainting of the car was definitely a questionable moment in terms of fact and fiction, but I think it's excusable simply because the car ultimately was a symbol. Assuming that the incident actually happened, the vehicle is a representation about attitudes rather than a factual event.

The movie's worst points are when the story refocuses on her relationship with her girlfriend. It's totally unrelated to the story and a pretty weak subplot. If anything, it came across as a jab at a women who clearly couldn't handle a relationship that involved her girlfriend being far away for a long period of time. It made the film's protagonist come across as a little bit sour, or a victim, which didn't do the broader story any justice.


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I pretty much agree with the OP. The person who made this documentary was self-centered and delusional, just wanted to be the center of attention. They even explain in the movie how the vast majority of negative feedback about the fagbug campaign comes not from homophobes but from the LGBT community. Sorry beaux but that should have been a pretty darn big wake up call, if the homophobes don't mind what you're doing but your fellow gays & lesbians do. I understand what the Fagbug lady was trying to do, but she failed at it when she made it all about her ego and nothing about the struggles of LGBT people. She was trying so hard to martyr herself I almost expected to see her literally get up on a cross.

Poor film with little of value to real LGBT activism.

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