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Marilyn Manson thumbing his nose at the whole thing.


He lifted his entire story out of Lovecraft stories.

The necronomicon is a completely fictional book created by Lovecraft. A disappearing house? Extremely Lovecraft.

Really, isn't he poking fun at his own fans and thinking they are stupid?
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This person says that Manson's story doesn't make sense because he uses visual references instead of other sensory ones,

http://narrativeintent.blogspot.com/2010/11/marilyn-mansons-celebrity-ghost-story.html

which is interesting, but the problems with his story are much simpler than that. Something this incredible would have been included in his biography, The Long Hard Road Out of Hell, which came out several years ago. I read this book and didn't remember anything about a house disappearing or Satanic portals to Hell. I went flipping back through the book and surprisingly, the story was in there, but not the version that was told on CGS. Here is a list of the differences.


Book:
- He says he had only knew two people in high school, Jennifer and John (who wore a denim jacket and was an "enemy" but nothing about beating him up.) Then he talks about how he got severely beat at the roller skating rink by this black guy named Frog, because Manson kissed who he didn't know was Frog's girlfriend. Manson still has jaw problems to this day because of the fight with Frog. Later on, John's brother gets home and starts shooting his gun randomly, just because he's crazy. John and Manson go to the barn to hide from him. John makes him promise not to tell his brother, and they go up in the hay loft. Satanic stuff, carcasses, blood everywhere and the Necronomicon. John says he wants to take Manson to the place where his brother sold his soul to the devil. They go running through a sewage tunnel and get covered in grime and filth with rat carcasses everywhere. Then they run through a field to get to the house. The house has at least two stories and has windows. Manson describes climbing through the window and going upstairs to a bedroom, where John opens the Necronomicon and begins reading from it. They hear a couple of thumps downstairs and take off running. No mention of if they took the book with them or left it. They go back to John's house and take drugs with his brother and listen to Ozzy. No cellar. No basement. No disappearing house. They didn't go back the next day either. In fact, Manson said that the next day he woke up at 5pm and threw up repeatedly, because he was so sick from the drugs.

CGS:
- John (guy in denim jacket) beats him up for looking at his girlfriend and this is how they meet (possibly combining the stories of John and Frog). John shows him hay loft in barn for Satanic rituals. He says "you can't tell my brother." The brother comes home and they take off running through a field with the Necronomicon. No sewage tunnel. They get to a house foundation but there's no upstairs or windows. They go into the cellar and John forces Manson to read the Necronomicon by lighter. They hear Satanic voices, the world begins to shake, and they open a portal to hell. They take off running and leave the book behind. They go back the next day to look for the house and it isn't there.


You can see huge differences in both stories. On CGS he claims the house disappeared. This is HUGE. If a house disappeared why would he leave this out of the book? Why did he leave out running through the sewage tunnel (a very vivid tale because there were rats and excrement everywhere)? How did they all of a sudden end up in the cellar if they were upstairs in the book? How did John end up forcing Manson to read the spells while his finger was getting burned by the lighter, when it was John who said the spells in the book? It sounds like over the years, Manson has embellished this story until it became the version he told on CGS. Maybe he thinks it's a joke to go on this show and make stuff up, and nobody will ask questions. As far as "the" Necronomicon, I'm guessing they used the Simon version, which is a modern reprint of a fictional spellbook made up by HP Lovecraft, because no "real" Necronomicon exists. I doubt someone as smart as Manson thinks it is real; he probably just went with it because he knows it will spook his fans.

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I'm glad you brought this up because when I saw the episode I thought it sounded like a different story than the book. I read the book years ago and remember a story like that but the details he gave on the show were different. Good to know I'm not losing it. LOL

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Thanks Superstarlet04... I thought the whole thing sounded a bit off and now I know the truth... Thanks again for taking the time to write that!!

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You're welcome. Saying my goodbyes before the boards shut down.

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