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What's the situation? (spoilers)


Man, I pissed myself with laughter when that one arrow was fired and both soldiers dropped "dead"... you know what I mean.

Even though that was a really funny moment, the overall message that you cannot escape trouble - it will always come looking for you, was pretty unusual for a Jackie Chan movie. Only, the movie should have ended before the last comment, which was a nod to the communist regime and their usual message that oppression is a means to universal peace. Right.

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Yup that was pretty funny.

As for the last comment, whats wrong with that, its a fact, Qin was the first to Unify China, Wars have always happened, but having 7 states and 1 state the intensity and number of wars is going to be less.

Has nothing to do with Communists in China, I just get this feeling that the westerns have this weired complex of Communism, they just can't get past if even when it has nothign to do with the "situation" to invoke the pun here.

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"communist regime and their usual message that oppression is a means to universal peace"

Dude, for the World's Peace, please use google and wikipedia to truly understand wtf are Communism and the Communists, who are Karl Marx and Fedric Engel, etc... Don't replay your own country's propaganda and don't keep your false prejudice.

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-100 points for not making any movie related comment (remember where we are). For the record, "China is governed by the Communist Party of China (CPC)" (Source: Wikipedia). I'd say that qualifies as communism. Btw, it's Friedrich Engels.

Now back to movie related stuff:
If you want a fighting movie to have success in as many cultures as possible, name it BOTH "Karate Kid" and "Kung Fu Kid".

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the communist regime and their usual message that oppression is a means to universal peace. Right.
What about the westerners message "Pax Romana" - the glory that was Rome, civilization that was Rome, all that sh!t they propagate? - Roma was the biggest oppressor of them all, Satan himself, if you're a Christian.

Now, I do hate both Capitalist America and Communist China, especially since they live together in harmony.

If America would put China under embargo as they do to Cuba, I would say gg America. But America+China=Love. 1 billion slave workers in China make cheap products for American "freedom fighters".

You see, it's actually western Capitalism that helps the Communist Slavery regime in China avoid collapse.

America is home of the hypocrites, land of the biggest market for products made using China's slave labor.

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That's one way to look at it, I can't argue with that. But it's not only the US that uses cheap Asian labour.

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Only, the movie should have ended before the last comment, which was a nod to the communist regime and their usual message that oppression is a means to universal peace. Right.
Really? I thought that was really a nod to Pax Romana or more recently Pax Americana... you know, there'll be world peace if all the superpowers would just stop fighting and obey one single hyperpower....

But that's only because, going by sheer volume, I'm more familiar propaganda of the American kind rather than the Chinese/communist kind.... Of course, in the USA, they call it publicity or public relations (see the frequently changing names of the various bureau/board created from Bush to Obama to improve the US image in the world).


If you care enough to go around telling people you don't care... you obviously care.

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Only, the movie should have ended before the last comment, which was a nod to the communist regime and their usual message that oppression is a means to universal peace. Right.
Err, the postscript was there to let people know whether and how the General kept his promise to the Soldier....

To spout yet another big word, you are "insinuating" things you can't prove-- I mean, if it's a matter of your opinion, then say so and stop presenting it as fact... do you know how much fuss people (aka political hawks) made about the postscript to the Ip Man movie BEFORE they even read it?

I mean, do you even think through your arguments? If there was no postscript, people would never know if the Soldier achieved any thing in letting the General go; and if the postscript said that the General fought and died against the Qin Army, the Soldier's simple wish for the General and his family line to stay alive would have similary come to naught...

But I suppose you would rather have the movie would be laughed out of the theater by having (a Shyamalan twist?) the General fight and beat the Qin Army, retaking the Liang city and avenging the Soldier along the way? *cue canned laughter*

Again, if you have read any of the other threads-- setting the story at the end of the Warring States effectively limits its ending (Qin does conquer all), but it is also what gives it its poignancy (in how helpless/clueless both the General and the Soldier are)... were you perhaps expecting a feel-good farce like Inglorious Bastards (when in fact the Allies "allowed" the holocaust to happen)?

Think, man, think-- even before you spout, I mean use, those little, every-man/day words of yours. This may not be the fairy-tale (see Inglorious Bastards) you want to see, but it is a more tightly/coherently structured fable than you are able to deconstruct.

Of course, if it makes you feel better, the descendants of all conquered states later rebelled and overthrew the Qin government-- but adding THAT kind of postscript doesn't really invalidate the Chinese government's "hegemony" (every Chinese government in every era came to power through rebellion), so you're still dreaming/propagandizing about the kind of politics that are NOT even in this film.

It is simply the elephant in the room for all China period pieces-- the central Chinese authority/bureaucracy developed thousands of years ago crumbled and re-invented itself over time, but never really went away.... Trying to complain about the politics of China period pieces, by ignoring its actual political history; is like trying to complain about Chinese currency/trade manipulation, by ignoring how it props up foreign governments through buying their bonds.

Yeah X 3, seeing as how the OP throws bare assertions around, I know what he/she is gonna say-- tl;dr... LOL



If you care enough to go around telling people you don't care... you obviously care.

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Compared to the American selfloving in Hollywood movies, this and most Asian movies don't even get close to that bar.

As someone who's neither Chinese or American, I'd say you hear tons more whitewashing of Capitalism and Pax Americana than of China and Communism.

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