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I dont understand the ending... he lets the price go... and walks up the steps to see a 3rd army distroy his home and they see him and shoot him... and he just dies?

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Yep, that's exactly it.

I really liked the ending.
It's a breath of fresh air compared to the stupid happy endings we keep seeing in Jackie's american films.

What else was he supposed to do, anyway?
-Bring the prince back to get the reward? No way, they had become good friends by that time (plus he realized that the prince had a lot of potential).
-Run away from the invading soldiers? or fight them? No way, you can't fight an army by yourself.

And if everything you've ever known is gone, what's the point of living?

It's a bit dark for a JC film, but at least it's realistic.

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I thought it was sad when the little sparrow landed on him

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Don't forget that last scene in the movie. The Singer finds the magic tree and hangs Big Soldier's map with the characters for peace on it. The retribution against the wars is peace. That is the true end of the movie, not Big Soldier's death.

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It's a breath of fresh air compared to the stupid happy endings we keep seeing in Jackie's american films


What about the stupid happy endings in, oh, all of his HK films?

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What about the stupid happy endings in, oh, all of his HK films?
Nah, his HK films only have silly happy endings that are usually in line with the comical aspects of his films.

It's his American movies that have stupid happy endings, usually because they have a pretty stupid premise to begin with.


If you care enough to go around telling people you don't care... you obviously care.

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He let the prince go for the same reason that he was hiding in the battlefield. The prince was the only one left in his family to carry on the family name, and he had already extracted the 10 year truce, and he had become his friend. If he had taken him in for a ransom the war would have carried on, and he would have also betrayed what had become a friendship now.

The death is ad, but it reflects what happened in china, china was united by the qin state of all the warring states. His country was destroyed, he had nothign left. And the shock got to him, so he died with his country. Defending it to his death, going against his fathers wishes sadly.


Typical patriotic propoganda that all nationalistic films are drenched it (whether american or chinese, or any other nations), but nonetheless is quite good.

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I didn't look at it as typical patriotic propaganda. More like character development.

Both characters go through major changes as the movie progresses. Chan's character had many tricks to survive war. Blood bags, fake arrows, swords that went inside itself. All he wanted was his farm and he would do whatever it took to get out of battle.

Such as kidnapping a general and taking him home.

It's obvious that the General's harsh words got to him, always calling him AWOL, telling him he has no honor. He really thought wisely about the words and even had dreams of his inevitable death as a soldier.

His entire home was gone and when there was no more reason to fight, he decided to defend his dying homeland like he was sent to do when the war started. It was pointless by this time, but the character had changed so much that this was the only way out.

It was a perfect circle. It was sad, yet beautiful as the General who was first ready to battle his own brother to the death, now surrendered and held his promise to a 10 year truce.

The ultimate happy ending. Peace.

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Definitely the saddest ending I've seen from Jackie. It was depressing and sad and gave you a "WTF. Don't!" feeling. The man wanted to farm, give him a farm!

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unfortunately Disney did not produce this film, so the man could not live happily ever after with family at their farm. darn these chinese and their sad endings.

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What the movie does well is show character development. Remember Chan always going on about not dying in vein? He was always selfless no matter what, unless it was the matter of life and death.

The friendship he made with the general was the final step in the progression of his character. No matter how rewarding it may have been, Chan let the general go because he could relate to his situation (them being only sons alive). Once he discovers that Qin was conquered his dreams shatter. He is the only Qin soldier left, except this time he does't stand down. He has been running his whole life because he chooses not to die a wasteful death, but after making friends with the general and accomplishing so much with him, he feels as if he has done his part; which is promoting peace. That's what Chan's characters ultimately stands for. He is the "little" person that got so far by being completely selfless and ran his whole life, yet his contribution was so large.

The movie wouldn't have made any sense if Chan started fighting. He was always the character that searched for other ways of confronting things without having to resort to violence.

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Qin Conquered Liang, which is where Chan's character is from. He's from Liang, not Qin.

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Yes, excellent ending to an excellent film. It is nice seeing a new Jackie film and having that warm feeling he seems to generate in you. The last one I saw was Shinjuku Incident, and while that was very good, it was fairly depressing (actually extremely depressing given it was Jackie and I had just watched Wheels on Meals).

Emily? Who's Emily?

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he had been the cowardly one, the one that had always wanted to avoid fighting. There was logic in it as he preferred peace, but he always fealt less significant compared to his brothers. By getting the flag home he had upheld his family name and the honor of the Liang.

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I figured he was going to die since he kept dreaming of being killed. I was rooting for him to jump in the river and swim to the boat where his friend was - so he could go with him to his land.

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