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Was William about to call the whole thing off and save Jim? (spoilers)


At his mother's garden party, William seemed to have a moment of redemption when his mum told him she love him. I assume this was intentional? When he was typing furiously, I got the impression that he'd had a change of heart due to his mother finally acknowledging him and wanted to save Jim, but then his father ruined it for him... a combination of his father's words, the humilating looks from the people at the party, and his mother neglectful glance away from him at that moment made him snap, and he instantly slipped further into wanting Jim to commit suicide.

This is at least what I took from the scene. Were we supposed to assume this?

I did like this film, despite its many, many flaws, and Aaron Johnson was brilliant in it. However, I did find his character's motivations far too unclear at times; I understood that he was clearly severely unhinged due mostly to the neglectful way he was raised (in the shadow of his older brother), but he didn't seem to want Jim dead as much as he was completely obsessed with bringing someone to suicide. If the death of those around him (Jim, in particular, as he was weak and vulnerable) was his primary goal, he could easily have murdered Jim himself in the final scene, but that never even seemed to occur to him.

One day, you are going to die.

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I interpreted the garden-party scene's emotional effect on William the same way you did (that he had a change of heart about driving Jim to suicide, but then snapped back into vengeful determination after the altercation with his father.)

I agree with you that William's motivation seemed to be "to cause a suicide" rather than "to see Jim dead." It was the feeling of power that he was after--as in the rough/abusive-chat-room scenes in which William stood in the corner in front of the satanic wings. It seemed to me that the filmmakers were trying to convey William's pleasure when the boy being targeted for abuse in that room, looked William's way. William seemed to be identifying himself--or wanting the boy to see him--as the entity driving all the hostility in that room.(This would be William's distorted wishful thinking--his grandiosity. It appeared that the others in the room weren't really even aware of him.)

All in all, I thought this movie did a great job of translating the psychological realities of online interaction into visual metaphors. There were problems both with plotting and with the mechanics of scene transitions, but the movie deserves a higher rating than it gets.

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I think the garden party seen was used to reinforce the point that William was projecting his own misery onto that of others a.k.a; his life is *beep* and people are mean equates into Will trying to make others lives miserable, William feels loved and happy = he no longer has a need to see others unhappy. William was in-acting revenge or suffering, whatever you want to call it, onto people he could, because in his real life he found himself in a powerless situation, not even being able to take away his own life. Which leads into your next question; William was trying to redeem himself through Jim. Because he had failed himself at suicide, and probably felt he couldn't try again because of his parents, he was essentially enacting his own suicide through Jim, and in that way seeking the satisfaction and relief he thought/thinks suicide would bring him. He was bringing to life the fantasy of his own suicide through the closest possible option second to killing himself, and that was being responsible for the suicide of another.

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I assumed exactly what u assumed but I am confused a bit, he didn't need to get mad at his father and could've tried explaining what he was doing
I even thought he was after the suicide of the Asian girl who jumped her window
abt Jim he wanted him to do what he wanted to do himself but couldn't coz prolly he was too weak
so Jim's suicide is a joy to William, he made him do it while he failed to commit suicide himself
killing Jim wouldn't be the same thing, he wanted to push him towards doing what he couldn't do.


"It is never about what happened, it is only how you look at it!"

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Let's just say that if that's all it took for William to reconsider then he really hadn't changed...

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