Japan is disgusting


I almost cried because of this movie.

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Yup. Of course you can say 'it's just a tiny percentage of the Japanese population doing this', but after all the publicity the film got (including the Oscar), it's outrageous to see it's still going on and Japan is just ignoring it. So, Japan is disgusting. It just can't change its ways.

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Apparently its starting to become a big film in japan at the moment and they can hardly keep it on the shelves, so maybe the tide is turning.


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It better...

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Interesting. Where did you hear that?

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It never became a big film here. It was featured at a hand full of indies theaters because major theaters (namely Warner Mycal) wouldn't take on the controversy. It wasn't advertised--most movies don't get advertised on TV in Japan--and when it was in theaters, it was only there for a few days to a week or two.

Most Japanese people do NOT eat dolphin, and most Japanese people don't know that dolphin is eaten anywhere in the country. The people that do know probably heard about the controversy online, but overall the documentary was suppressed and went by unknown to the masses.



And to the OP: Thanks for buying into an overblown stereotype based on an extremely biased film. Before you go and call a country disgusting, please do more research than watching propaganda.

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Thanks for the info. I still have some trouble comprehending why apparently so few Japanese know about this film. It won an Oscar after all. Are Oscar results not of interest in Japan?

So, if more Japanese people did know about this issue, would it help fighting dolphin slaughter? Would there be a general revulsion towards it? Or would it just be accepted without question?

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I think the mass-awareness will certainly help the cause : now I am certain that in this age of Internet and Globalization, so called "traditions" bears little meaning to the younger generations... and they would certainly understand the reasons why the killings must stop.

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Most Japanese people do NOT eat dolphin, and most Japanese people don't know that dolphin is eaten anywhere in the country.
This point was made in the movie...because in fact most Japanese people DO eat dolphin meat without knowing it as it is packaged & labelled as other meat.

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Japanese are very cruel for some reason. They tortured their prisoners in WW2 and slaughtered the babies of Chinese in front of their mothers when they invaded Manchuria, which is why the Chinese hate them.

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Exactly! They go beyond what is normal in war. Watch that movie from 2005 called The Great Raid http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0326905/, starring James Franco? Tells you plenty about Japanese culture. They had superiority complex and felt they were better than everyone else and other humans were just like animals. It was also evident in the movie The Last Samurai, starring Tom Cruise. Even my own mother remembers as a child from the WW2 era, how many Americans hated and loathed the Japanese because they were merciless killers.

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Hey whitey, how many of your relatives owned black slaves??

"If it bleeds, we can kill it."

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First off, dick, my distant immigrant-relatives came from Italy and Ireland after Slavery ended! And it was ARABS that owned and sold slaves more than white people.

Whitey? Sound like a racist to me, ahole.

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To roselaar: Inside Job came out and got all kinds of publicity (including the Oscar) and it's outrageous to see those practices still going on and the United States is just ignoring it. So, the U.S. is disgusting. It just can't change its ways.

At least, that's in your words.

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Correct. But then, all humans are disgusting. Though some humans are more disgusting than others, and some nations of humans are more disgusting than other nations of humans.

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I see all countries as being just as capable of such things, so this movie doesn't come across to me as saying that this small number of Japanese people involved is any worse in the big scheme of things. It could have been anywhere, it just happens to be Taiji, Japan for this particular atrocity.

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Agreed. Japan actually has a thriving whale watching industry and some of the best whale watching sites in the world - especially humpback whales.


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I just don't get why the whale watching industry in Japan doesn't pressure the government more to keep them in business by stopping whaling altogether. Surely they make more money than the actual whaling industry?

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Quote from a blog about Taiji in an article...

"There seems to be a lot of discontent here in Taiji amongst the locals as written in the above blog. The Anonymous source shows deep concern for the reputation of both Taiji and Japan, with all the negative international attention drawn by the “distressful situation” related to the Hatajiri cove. “Many people, even within the Taiji community, are against dolphin hunting and the difficult situation resulting for this rural town”, the source clearly said: “But they do not dare to raise their voices.”




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And as long as they don't dare, the slaughter continues. The Cove Guardians are the real heroes here, not the closet activists in Taiji itself.

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closet inactivists

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No, they're already inactive, so they're not in the closet in that regard. But if they claim to care for the cause and they don't act even if the atrocities are happening in their hometown, they're closet activists. Or simply inactivists.

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You're wrong dude. You need to learn before you decide what is disgusting. Japan has a problem with thinking they are above everyone else. They have pride that goes beyond what is normal and for this they are willing to die for their country and people. They also will not ask for help because they can't LOWER themselves, and that's why we have the nuclear disaster waiting to happen with Fukishima right now, leaking tons of radiation into our oceans.

No other people went as far as the japs did in WW2. I could tell you the blood sports they engaged in for mere fun and pleasure. Sickening but then again, it happened so long ago, you and others like you, think it is no true or made up.

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Well, this is going to be a long post. First of all, I agree that the slaughter of dolphins is just plain wrong. I also believe that slaughterhouses are just plain wrong, too. However, being able to speak Japanese and having Japanese friends gives me the advantage to see both sides of this issue, and I doubt "The Cove" will ever be making a big impact in Japan, and I'll explain it here, and also explain how to effectively stop this kind of thing.

First of all, the Japanese find the West's outcry against this act to be exceedingly hypocritical. They say, "So, it's it okay for Americans to breed animals in horrendous living conditions, deprive them of any sense of freedom, and then slaughter them by the thousands, which is probably the most merciful thing they ever do towards these animals. On the other hand, it's not okay for this little village to kill some dolphins, which is just a drop in the bucket compared to all the livestock slaughtered yearly, and certainly isn't pushing the species to extinction." According to them, it reeks of ethnocentrism.

Now, I know that in America we tend to put price tags on animals. We say to ourselves, "Well, my cat/dog/bird is way more valuable than that pheasant. Obviously it's okay to kill that and not my own pet." The activists in this particular documentary say it's all about "self awareness", but that's a.) a very human way of looking at things, and b.) I personally believe that all animals possess self-awareness, at least to a certain degree, and you shouldn't need Koko, the signing gorilla, to tell you that.

As a hobby farmer myself, I can tell you that these hooved and feathered creatures are basically dogs with feathers and hooves. Ever been snuggled by a goose? I guarantee you'll never eat one again! Ever had your life literally saved by a cow who intentionally placed herself in danger to save you? I guarantee, McDonald's Big Macs will make you cry.

In fact, I bid you to check out this documentary entitled, "The Emotional World of Farm Animals" part 1 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R9kaiA-Iw

Now, before I continue, I'd like to point out the Japanese viewpoint on this. First of all, the Japanese were staunch vegetarians (the only meat that they would eat were local fish) for many years. It was the West that reintroduced the concept of eating meat to them. Why were they vegetarians? Because the Japanese perception is that if you eat any kind of meat at all, you're guilty. To them, placing animals on a hierarchy of value is just plain weird to them, and pointing out the guilt of anything is hypocritical. There are people, as pointed out in this thread, who are angry about the killings, but they remain silent because they see the situation as unfair and anti-Japanese, if you will.

Don't get angry and call them "inactivists" because all they see is foreign idealists telling them how to live their lives. If Japan made a documentary meant to portray Americans as evil, cow-slaughtering individuals, we'd probably get defensive, too, even if we felt that slaughter is wrong. We're more influenced by our friends than by the people who portray us as their enemies, and this documentary seems to go out of its way to portray the Japanese as being evil, even commentating on their prisons - and they incarcerate far less people than the United States, just for the record.

In the end, if you really want to stop this senseless killing, then stop treating the Japanese like they're inhuman. No one wants to watch a documentary created by foreigners that portrays them as evil, and those who do see it get a very different vibe from what Americans do who watch the film. There is a huge cultural divide between east and west, and if you can't understand that, then you shouldn't be making these documentaries.

Understand the Japanese, then you can change them. They aren't Americans, and they see what they're doing to be no different from a slaughterhouse in America. In fact, they get more angry over the senseless killings of black rhinos for their horns alone than most Americans ever will. Learn to understand them, even befriend them, and you'll have much more influence. Activism is good, but most of the time it comes off as ethnocentric.

I would also like to point out that the practice of eating dolphin meat has been waning over time, and it should end soon. The Japanese have a lot of respect for the sea, and their whale watching and recreational scuba diving industries are some of the best in the world. It's not about profit when they kill dolphins - it's about a local tradition, and criticism of it is a demonstration of cultural ignorance. It's not a nation-wide tradition, but we have many traditions in America that most people don't know about, either.

As such, this documentary will probably only prolong this disgusting practice. By attacking someone for their behavior, you create resistance. As I said, you're friends are more influential than your enemies. I fear that this documentary will guarantee the practice goes on longer than end it. Do NOT exploit a terrible practice like this to obtain the moral high ground! Doing so will only create resistance, as we Americans should know because we get defensive when other countries criticise things like our foriegn policy, or Guantanamo and torture. Even if we're against these things ourselves, we don't want China or anyone else telling us.

So, I hope I helped you see how the Japanese percieve this problem, how this kind of activism prolongs the problem, and how to effectively reach the heart of the Japanese people.

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Thanks for your insightful post, Akira. I do not buy your 'Japanese have a lot of respect for the sea' comment though. No nation on Earth has done so much damage to the ocean ecosystems as Japan, because of their fish-centered diet (which rules out the vegetarian argument as well, because people who eat fish aren't vegetarians). And it's only getting worse because of the demands for sushi and shark fin soup. 300,000 bucks for a single Blue Fin Tuna? No wonder this species will be extinct soon! And the Japanese don't care enough to stop it.

And then of course there is the whaling issue... this year it's going to be worse than ever, now that the Japanese government has issued mercenaries to protect the whaling fleet. This ridiculous practice is harmful even to the Japanese themselves considering it hurts their whale watching tourism. But once again, the Japanese just sit back and don't take action. They're a passive society and they'll never change, so it's not surprising the call for change will come from outside Japan, whether they like it or not.

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You have mentioned some of the most disturbing facts in that post.
It's true that Japan, being one of the premier nations in the World in terms of wealth and technology, we really expect more active and sincere ecological conservation measures from them.
I do understand that fish is an important (and perhaps necessary) aspect to their lifestyle as their land-cultivation is not enough to feed the population. But depleting the ocean at a insane rate is not a solution : they must develop advanced fish-farming methods, and be extra cautious about sustaining marine life, otherwise the common Japanese people will suffer most in future.

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Japan has a horrific whaling industry, but I think that the actions of a lot of other nations do worse for the ocean. Those of us in the west may not go hunting whales (well, maybe with the exception of a few countries), but we do a lot of harm in other ways.

I don't think you're going to change the Japanese diet. They are some of the healthiest people in the world, sporting the lowest rates of obesity, longest lifespan, and great mental health (omega-3 is essential in a diet to maintain mental health, and experts speculate that if Americans ate more like the Japanese, our rates of mental problems in both children and adults would diminish). Obviously, they're doing something right in their diet.

Not to mention, Japan as an island can't sustain a thriving agricultural society the way other nations can.

However, they really need to practice better fish farming, as another poster said. Many of my Japanese friends are proud to say that the Japanese culture as a whole has a lot of respect for the sea, but to maintain their health and tradition a lot of species become their victims. I think better fish farming is the issue to helping save species such as the Blue Fin Tuna, because trying to force anyone to do anything, even if it's for the better, will come off as aggressive and prompt a defensive reaction.

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The reason this movie had to be made was because Japanese government was doing nothing to stop these dolphin killings and there was a cover up to make sure that the general public in Japan didn't know about the killings. And at the same time trick the general public into buying dolphin meat thinking it was whale meat. So why is showing the Japanese public what is happening in their own country wrong? I would have thought that they would be happy to know about this. But maybe they aren't. Maybe it's easier to blame "the West" for trying to force Japan to change it's ways.

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Whatever Nipper!

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Japan isn't disgusting and neither are Japanese people. fair enough if you are disgusted by the people killing the dolphins in the movie but do you really think that Japan is a disgusting country because of that? it's only a very small minority that even know about the dolphin killing, this movie is just creating tension between Japan and westerners.

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It isnt all Japan it is 'only' Taiji if you see the cove it depicts that there was a media cover up none of Japan kne. I dont even think the people of Taiji knew what was going on. Japans dirty secret. Now no more. It was good to see people in Tokyo out protesting good on them:)

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Even after Akira's post, none of you will mention the cruel practices of slaughterhouses in our western countries, which still goes unchanged. I'm just saying, Japan isn't the only country with cruel practices going on behind the scenes.

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I just saw this film and as an American I'm embarrassed to say that most Americans are disgusting in their unjustified sense of entitlement of their pride in making such ignorant, imbecilic statements. This is why other countries are thriving and America is dying. America has absolutely no self-awareness. What kind of an absolute moron watches something like this and takes away the message that "Japan is disgusting." You sincerely missed the point of the documentary and its message.

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