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Hypocrisy at its peak


Did the film move you? Make you want to cry? You are just being a hypocrite.
For a lot of people are used to see these things every time they step out of the house, to go out shopping. This just feels like a regular thing.
People kill cows and birds at will, what makes this any different.
Arguing that you should not kill a intelligent (self aware) creature is just a load of ****.
Have you seen a cow or a sheep being killed? Have you ever felt, what the fish is feeling when you are taking the fish out of water?
I could almost laugh when the free-diver started crying, when she said “it was so sad, the dolphin took a last breadth, and we didn’t see it again”. I bet she doesn't feel anything when she eats meat for dinner.

What you do is ignore all these things when you eat meat every single day. By supporting films like these you feel you have done good in your life. Wake up and see the meat, you will see the pain on your dinner plate.

Hypocrisy has no limits these days.

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You've just convinced me to become a cannibalist. I mean pfft intelligence and emotions aren't important at all.

On the other end of the scale you have plants which are alive too. Except they cant move to defend themselves like Pigs and Cows. Dolphins are the closest animal to humans, and to me, any creature that is capable of self-awareness and can EMOTIONALLY understand suicide is just as human to me as YOU are.

Of course, that doesn't excuse me from feeling guilty about eating meat and beef. I gave up all sea-food years ago for this very reason but I don't think I'm capable of giving up meat and beef. But again I DO feel bad about eating it.

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Don't generalize, OP. There's quite a lot of vegetarians around here who do not need to labelled as hypocrits under your definition.

Anyway, stop bitching about definitions, and start takin action instead of wasting your time bashing people on message boards.

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LumanoidAU- I could not agree with you more. It's as if you have written down what I was thinking as I read what can only be described as a completely nonsensical post by someone who clearly has a majorly overinflated ego. For someone who can't even spell the word 'breath' correctly, they think incredibly highly of themselves. Thank you for putting them in their place.

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Mate! You said exactly what I wanted to say, and you even phrased it the way I was going to. I love seeing intelligent arguments on the internet, you made my day!

It's the little things :)

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I cannot agree more harsha2 - thanks and good post

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"I bet she doesn't feel anything when she eats meat for dinner."

How do you know she eats meat for dinner? Not everyone eats meat.

God loves you. Deal with it!

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How much well-yen-paid pathos)))

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You are a dumbass.

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Intelligence does not make suffering worse. A cow feels just as much pain as a dolphin, or a human for that matter. It's extremely hypocrital to say that it's "okay to kill dumb animals but not the intelligent ones". Pigs, which most westerners eats, has been proven to be highly intelligent. Again, intelligence is not an issue, it's hypocritical to think that way. Compare it to saying that it's more okay to kill dumb humans than to kill intellingent humans, but you would not say that, cause that would be immoral and hypocritical.

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Hypocrisy doesn't negate empathy. And I notice you completely neglected the part about Dolphins being family oriented.

Don't try and tell me or anyone else they have to put freakin Cows on level footing with Dolphins.

Beyond that, they DONT kill humanely. And they don't kill primarily (at least not directly) as a food source.

Japanese members of the IWC come up with all kinds of reasons for the dolphin drives. They have taken to claiming that the slaughter is a part of their culture, and therefore a source of pride for their people. They have gone so far as to accuse the West of 'tampering with their country's identity'. Another excuse for the dolphin hunt was provided by the IWC, as displayed during a meeting with the Taiji fishermen in January 2004. The fishermen told the media that the hunt was not just about the dolphin's meat, or even their contribution to the dolphinarium industry. In their own words, dolphins are "culled" as a form of "pest control". In the fishermen's opinion these creatures eat too many fish, and they are simply killing them to ensure that they do not lose their livelihood. Interestingly enough, this is the first time that that Japanese dolphin hunters have freely admitted to using the drives as a 'pest control' process.

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people who are equally disturbed about the wholesale slaughter of ants/roaches/flies/mosquitoes are pretty damn rare.

and even more rare are those that are disturbed by all the systematized killing of plant-life.


i bet all the people here that are saying things like "pigs/cows/etc. are just as bad to kill as dolphins" have no problems killing insects and plants by the thousands.




this should tell you that, the intelligence level of the life forms being killed is indeed relevant to more than %99 of all people out there.

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So you're saying that there is no difference between killing a bug or killing a pig or killing a dolphin, right?

A Dolphin's brain is more developed than a pig's brain. Killing a dolphin is killing a creature closer to human, so it's more cold-blooded.

Dolphins are also very kindhearted, they always help us... Isn't that enough to stop people from killing them?

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they put a retracting metal rod in their brain that kills them immediately...the days of the sledge are over

mmmmm I'm gunna make pork chops, porterhouse steaks, and dolphin fillets for dinner

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1) Cows vs. Dolphins
This is some stupid argument. Dolphins are smart ok? Just like how smarter people are valued higher and should not be killed where as a less intelligent person's life is valued less, it is perfectly fine to eat the cows. Also dolphins are not eaten as much as cows. When banning dolphin meat only affects little number of people, u should ban it. Most of all, Americans do not eat dolphins ok? u knumbnuts. Why should we give a damn about some low life foreigners eating dolphins. Ban it. Dolphins are not meant to be eaten, they have high level of mercury as the movie states. Mercury is much more dangerous than growth hormones on cows. Cows are tastey and dolphins are not (not that I have tried it). End of story.

2) Not everyone eats meat
I used to eat meat long time ago. But I realized all animals suffer when you eat them. So I said no to beef and pork. Just like dolphins, they feel pain and suffer as they are slaughtered. I don't have a problem with other people eating beef or pork, because those animals are not as smart as dolphins , therefore their deaths are less meaningful. So I became a vegetarian for couple of years but something changed it. One day I saw my neighbor growing and slaughtering her tomatoes as if their lives meant nothing. I mean she just straight up farmed it and took its life by cutting the tomatoes out with a razor sharp knife. Then she cut the tomatoes and it gushed with blood red tomato juice. It was horrible. Now I don't eat anything and I starved to death.

3) Crime against lives
Before I died, I stopped using all paper and wooden products because they are basically carcasses of tortured trees that greedy people murdered. After I died, I was not put in a wooden coffin because that is putting my own carcass inside another dead carcass of a tree. It is truly sickening how people just ignore all these needless deaths of dolphins, cows, tomatoes, trees, etc. Now I feel horrible about millions of sperm cells I murdered by masturbation and my dead skin cells I murdered by my own existence.

seriously. Are all the supporters of this bull crap propaganda movie self-righteous and intellect complexed teens, or are there some retard adults with over sensitivity who are easily mentally maneuvered? The same exact people who would've been convinced of ethnic cleansing if worded to influence... I hope people start to freakin farm the dolphins like cows with reduced mercury and mass produce them world wide, so every child in the world can enjoy a freakin dolphin in their lunchbox.

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Hilarious. THANK YOU, both you and the OP. Seriously some of the people on here flat-out piss me off, they're just RIDICULOUS.
Not a vegetarian? Stop bitching about the damn dolphins!! That makes you a hypocrite, end of story.

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Besides, considering a life is worthier than another because of a supposed superiority of "intelligence" leads to a practice called Eugenics. I heard it was very popular within the Third Reich...

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...and we have achieved Goodwin's Law:

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."

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Not funny at all you psychotic little *beep* I just hope you were resurrected after you had died, so some wild animal could kill you again and feed on your stinking carcass someday, you lousy meat bag.

To resist the influence of others, knowledge of one's self is most important

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When cows and chickens start saving human lives, I'll think a little more of them.

What we have here is failure to communicate!

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http://asiatic-lion.blogspot.com/2010/03/cow-saves-three-from-leopard- attack.html
There ya go. Translated into English from an Indian newspaper, the Divya Bhaskar Gujarati.
You'll have to copypaste and delete the space after "leopard-" because IMDB ruins 2 line links.
Atleast do some research before you say something moronic like that.


Oh, and here is a pig:
http://www.heroicanimals.com/tag/pig-hero

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Hogwash.

What we have here is failure to communicate!

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That's some astonishing insight.

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Well, when your argument is successfully rebutted, there's not much left but outright denial. =P

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Hogwash!

What we have here is failure to communicate!

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Did you see the documentary Food, Inc.? Yeah, it shows the slaughter houses in the U.S. It shows where our food comes from and how the corporations control everything and are very good at keeping their actions secretive. While watching the Cove, I thought about the very thing you write about. Bottom line is: culture and tradition must sometimes change. If you can look at the problems with your own country's industries and say it needs to change, you can look at other industries in other countries and say the same thing. The fact that the dolphin slaughter has been going on since the early 1600's means nothing today. That tradition should no longer exist. If you looked into it at all, you'd know that the Taiji fishermen said The Cove is just another biased foreign opinion of their long tradition. I've recognized that our beef and meat industry should definitely change the way they operate. I go organic whenever I possibly can. I don't trust our beef industry any longer. That being said, I can most definitely say that I'm fully against the dolphin slaughter and that is not hypocrisy!

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