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Who was who at the end?


I'm led to believe that the neurosurgeon put the the situation right at the end. What are your thoughts?

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At the end Huido is shown to be smoking the same way as the old man was, so it is implied that it is in fact the old man with Huido's memories. But the final scene, with the doctor, was Huido the old man's son?

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I think Huido was the old mans son, and that the doctor put things right at the end, the smoking may have been a remnance left in the body by switching back of the brains...

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I think thats what happened too.. he still had some of the characteristics of the old man from being switched again.

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I believe that the neurosurgeon put the the situation right at the end, because it's just odd after he says something sinister like "you think you're the only one who's playing the game?" and still continue helping him anyway to transplant the memory.

I don't think that remnants can stay in the body because the brain stores everything, how we move, how we draw, how we smoke. So I think the explanation why Huido smokes that way in the end is perhaps because that's been his smoking style too all the way; the father smokes like that, the son too.

One thing that bothers me, though, that if this theory is right, then this too, is the hole in the story. I mean, a son, has to see his father smoking frequent enough in order to finally adopt the hand gesture and everything for his style of smoking too, which means the son has to live with the father for long enough.

Then if Huido had lived with him that long as a child, why neither of them recognize anything about the other when they meet?

Or can someone's specific gestures be genetically passed to his offspring without them ever meet at all? any Psychology student reading? please help :D



Maybe the absence of signs is a sign

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I just saw the movie and this is what I gathered from it: The first game was all pre-planned and arranged by the surgeon to hook Huido in and not a random call as per the rules.

REMEMBER: The old man told Huido upon meeting him, that he and his friend always bet to a standstill (neither one winning over the other) until he called Huido. This was the planned part to suck Huido in...and the money of course.

If you all recall, the old man was Huido's customer at the beginning of the film; he was there probably trying to check out whether the boy was fit enough for the transfer and after he leaves without getting his change, the plan goes into effect.

I don't think that the old man was ever aware of having a son and the surgeon kept that little detail from the old man (courtesy of them having such a rare blood type to make the surgery work) as a trump card to be later played. It all adds up; the old man proved that he slept around with different women when he was inhabiting Huido's body throughout the film. It would be easy to sire a child and not know about it. He probably wasn't with the same woman on any given night when it came to his sexual escapades and not caring if he impregnated a few along the way.

I think that when we see Huido smoking at the end much like the old man's mannerisms, it's just a twist created by the director to implant doubt, even if for a few seconds, to the viewers. And then we're hit with the real twist at the end.

The surgeon was pulling the strings and he used this plan to get out from under the thumb of the old man because he saved the surgeon from his life of gambling debt, etc. Pay attention to their coversation at the end.

What a great film this was...I hope that Hollywood doesn't find out about this one. They'll try to remake it.



"I can't believe that Bryce prefers Van Patten's card to mine..."

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what son? he didnt have one.. why do you keep talking about him?
Or I did not watch this movie carefully..

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what son? he didnt have one.. why do you keep talking about him?
Or I did not watch this movie carefully..



The old man had a son - Huido, he just wasn't aware of it but the surgeon was when researching probable candidates for surgery and just kept it to himself for the time being.

As I explained, both Huido and the old man's blood types were so rare that the odds were just too glaring not to know that they were related. This, what the surgeon tells the old man,just before killing him on the operating table.



"I can't believe that Bryce prefers Van Patten's card to mine..."

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All these responses are good and fine, but there's still 2 questions.

It was mentioned that the old man and his old friend (the one who later says he has gone to far) played the exact man/woman betting game to find kid. Now if both of them guessed random numbers, how in the world could it be possible for the surgeon to make the kid the receiver of the call? He couldn't control the #'s that both the old rich guys called out to play the game, and thus couldn't guarantee they'd call the kid.

In the same way, he couldn't control the numbers the kid and old guy were calling out when those two played the game, and there was no way to guarantee if who they called would be a man or woman.

This is a really big plot hole to me, unless someone saw something I didn't. I'd like to hear an explanation if so.

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"He couldn't control the #'s that both the old rich guys called out to play the game, and thus couldn't guarantee they'd call the kid. "

That wasn't a game. The old man already visited the kid before making the call to him. It was all set up just to lure the kid into playing the game.

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Wouldn't that means both old men who were playing the game were calling out pre-determined numbers in order to get the kid (and not just the old man who visited the him)?

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I think it just means that when Huido got the call he was lied to - it wasn't part of a game with anyone else. Otherwise the old man couldn't have visited him just before - that was a set-up.

I'm guessing he must have got the surgeon to find a possible donor (with that kind of money finding likely candidates via their patient records would probably have been easy). The surgeon found a candidate so perfect he knew it had to be family - the match was too close. If you remember, the Board member also commented on how much Huidoo looked like the old man (that's when it clicked for me, although I'd wondered at the earlier comment by the surgeon on how good the match was). But the bit the surgeon left out was that it was his son.

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There is no plot holes whatsoever. I indulge you to re-watch the movie before making false judgements. Let me clear this, the participation of Huido in the first game was a set up, that was obviously clear in the movie (hint for the ones who didn't get that part from the movie: re-check the face reactions of the supporting actors). Secondly, the ex-old man/new Huido did win the final game and did indeed had the transplantation of the memory of the current old-man/old Huido. The young Huido in the end was obviously the ex-old man (the father of the original Huido). So please don't give interpretations based on your own wishes for a happy ending. This is not a Hollywoodish film, you probably need to watch more Korean films to understand the real twist.

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I completely agree! I don't know why people are complicating things and adding their own twists to the story so as to fit with their wishful thinking. They are used to being spoon fed every detail in a movie and so used to hollywood's happy endings that anything else that requires critical thinking is just lost on them!

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Exactly!
I don't know why people think that the surgeon switched again the brains...
He only wanted to say the truth to the old man before losing his memories.

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