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No, Frank Sheeran aka "The Irishman" did not kill Hoffa


Hoffa was killed by underlings of Tony Provenzano and Tony Giacalone under orders from Mob Boss Russell Bufalino. Hoffa hopped into a car with Chuckie O'Brien and never seen again, his body burned in an incinerator at a mob run dump or crematorium.

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Ok

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Makes sense to me... Sheeran only "confessed" years after everyone died so no one could deny his claims...

Franks was just some poor sad old man who before he died wanted to make a name for himself.

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The more I read the more that's what it looks like to me. So, "F" Scorsese for making everyone in America look up for a second to see if what he had to say was anything important ... and it was just not. It was a stupid Mafia comic book movie at a time when Scorsese himself was saying the comic book and super-hero movies are not really film. America has to let go of these old codgers and move on. If someone wants to make a movie about the Mafia, or the Teamsters/Unions they need to balance it on real facts, not some cheap trash book. Of course, if there was a lot of real consistent info on the Mafia it would be a threat to them, so perhaps the movie attests to a reality that perhaps America was taken over by a combination of organized crime and oligarchs ... like Russia is now. We just had a better media, and are a richer country.

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Hmm - I kind of agree..... in that Scorsese didn't offer anything new with this film. It looked like a replica of his older films - the gangster stories, after a while, all begin to look the same, kind of like superhero films. So, while he is right about superhero films being bland.... he didn't have much to offer either.

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It was still a good movie, IMO. I actually wanted to hate it but I quite liked it.

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