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A new perspective for the 'sceptics'.


So let's say that Climate Change is not our fault, let's just rule out the "Are we to blame"-question.

I hear a lot of people who claim it's the sun etc, not humans, that's to blame say:

"Let's learn to adapt in the world that's to come instead". Well, there's the problem. We don't want to have to adapt to that world.

That world means that the red dust in Sydney* will be commonplace in a large part of the USA (Southwest to be specific).

That world means that most of countries like Holland will be covered with water (not 10 feet, but just 1 inch is enough to ruin all crops etc), and countries like the Maldives will disappear or move (the Maldives have already set up a fund to buy their new land).

That world means that wildfire-season such as in California will be all-year round.

That world means that deserts will grow, and natural disasters (i.e. Katrina) will get not only stronger, but more common.

All of these factors mean that there's going to be less food, less stable governments, starvation, higher prices on ALL products (foods, iPods, everything), civil wars, wars between countries, and yes, more terrorism.


Now if you've read this far, you're probably not a "sceptic", but I'd be glad to be proven wrong.

Well, the climate is changing, and not to our liking. Should we say "well, we're screwed", and accept it, or should we look at options to lower the temperature? If lowering green house gases could help slow down climate change, isn't it worth trying? If geoengineering can help slow down climate change, isn't it worth trying?

Sure, it's not as cool as the Armageddon nuke in the asteroid, but we'd still use science to conquer (what in your opinion is) a fate we didn't create for ourselves, but was handed to us by mother nature?

So the simple question: Assuming we're not at fault for climate change, shouldn't we take steps to protect our way of life, if possible, instead of letting our world create misery for us (and other lifeforms on the planet)?


* - http://www.boudist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/sydney-red-dust-storm-17.jpg

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The problem with your position is that the price of ipods can't possibly get any higher!

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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<So the simple question: Assuming we're not at fault for climate change, shouldn't we take steps to protect our way of life, if possible, instead of letting our world create misery for us (and other lifeforms on the planet)? >>>>>>>>>>>>

Absolutely. And there are far more cost-effective ways to do that than to take a bulldozer to our already damaged economy. If you think this recession is bad, wait until trillion dollar CO2 taxes hit.

The sun is warming up the entire solar system. NASA has written more than 130 reports on the subject.

As for what we could do for better climate control... atmospheric seeding and solar reflectors/powerplants hold a lot of promise.

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I second this.

Though I saw somewhere on the net that giant CO2 suckers were now patented and could prove to help against climate change. The thing is, trees do the exact same job... Just shows how the whole "green" bandwagon is becoming more and more of a marketing scheme than anything else. But don't get me wrong, we really have to act immediately, but let's not forget our common sense in doing so. Start planting some trees!

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Whether or not we are to blame, the Climate Change Conference did its bit by getting 15,000 people flying to Copenhagen. Bunch of hypocrites.

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You forgot to mention the places that were formally not habitable becoming available for human habitation and crop production due to climate change. You only mention ones that will become spoiled.

I wish there could be a balanced discussion of this subject somewhere rather than people just peddling one side of it.

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You are not to BLAME for anything, moron. The whole Climate Change idea was developed as an economic force and is currently used as such. It is mathematically impossible for the human kind to influence changes in the climate even if you build 1 billion factories more. We are not talking about dust here, but the moronic temperature increase models. Temperatures on Earth used to be up to 4C higher and nothing happened, they used to be 6-7C higher and NOTHING HAPPENED! In Psychology, the blame game is so very popular.

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