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Most ridiculous argument for custody!


How many mixed children are raised by white women every day. He and his wife would be better parents because they can handle racial discrimination better?

What does a Rich, pro basketball player know about racial discrimination anyway?
This is 2008...We are about to have a Black president (who was raised by a white woman), there is no racial discrimination.

And by the why...who cares about her past? She raised her son and is a good mother.



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Mostly agreed! Plus if you look at these two links here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Edwards
http://whatcolorislovelifetimemovie.blogspot.com/

You can see that Mr. Edwards & his wife had tried to gain full custody of the child because of race. Ridiculous! I'm thankful that Kimberly had gotten full custody of Elijah. Plus I don't care what her past is either. If it comes down to that, they should talk about Mr. Edwards & his wife's past as well.

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This is 2008...We are about to have a Black president (who was raised by a white woman), there is no racial discrimination.


The fact that people refuse to acknowledge that discrimination still exists makes the effects that much worse. We have to stop being in denial if we really want to change things. One Black man being elected president does not mean that there is no more institutional or individual discrimination in the United States. My entire job is based on the facts that (a) discrimination exists; (b) there are negative consequences for marginalized members of society; and (c) there are negative consequences for those who are in the dominant segments of society. We would ALL be better off if people would stop pretending like everything in the United States is just peachy.

That being said, I feel like the little boy is biracial, so he is better off having a relationship with both sides of his family. I agree that his biological mother cannot be deemed unfit for the simple fact that she is White, or rather, that she is NOT Black. I say this for all the obvious reasons. But also (which I haven't heard mentioned), if the Black father had won the suit, the boy would have been raised in a Black household believing that the White part of him was somehow deficient. He should be proud to be who and what he is - Black AND White. Why can't he have both worlds?



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You obviously view people in terms of their race. You know what that makes you?

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You obviously view people in terms of their race. You know what that makes you?


If this comment was targeted at me... It makes me a Black woman raised in the United States. Specifically, it makes me a Black woman raised in South Carolina. One whose parents, grandparents, and great grandparents grew up as "free" men and women in a state that continues to fly the Confederate flag on the state house grounds.

It also makes me someone who recognizes that race is a part of who people are. It is not something about anyone should be ashamed to speak of. It is not something that should be ignored. The fact that people did (and still do) view race as a basis to segregate people doesn't make race evil. It makes those people stupid. I'm a proud to be a Black woman. I think all Black people should be proud to be Black. Just like I think all other races should be proud to be what they are. Being proud and acknowledging your heritage does not make a person a racist. That's the distorted view that has everyone afraid to mention the R word.

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Ms. William the Bloody, great post. I co-sign.


Dawnm5, you have GOT to be kidding me. I'm not sure if you're post is s'posed to be sarcastic or if that's genuinely how you feel!

There are many mixed race children being raised by white women. Yes, I'll give you that. But... "What does a Rich, pro basketball player know about racial discrimination anyway?
This is 2008...We are about to have a Black president (who was raised by a white woman), there is no racial discrimination."

Are you SERIOUS???!!!




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Yes, we're serious. Shove your tired old tribalist grievances and quit blaming everyone else for your problems.

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While sitting here watching this movie, I kept thinking to myself that this has to be one of the dumbest cases in modern history. Let me get this right...the birth mother is not a drunk, not on drugs, not mentally impaired, stable, responsible, gainfully employed, doing everything she's supposed to do as a parent....but the MARRIED father can just walk right in and snatch custody he can better prepare the child for racism? Give me a freaking break.

I'm glad the mother won this case...and Blue Edwards and his wife should be horsewhipped for initiating this suit in the first place. This case seemed to have much more to do with the father's arrogance and reluctance to pay child support than it did discrimination. I noticed that the father made several statements about "subsidizing" the girlfriend's lifestyle. Well, he should have thought about the repercussions before he cheated on his wife.

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Fully agree with you. If he did care about his child so much, instead of keeping on fighting for him, why did he stop paying child support & stopped visiting him? She was more of a parent to him than he ever was.

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The worst part originaly based on actual events that arguement worked.

Tis a strange world we live in.

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Frightening.

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Initially she wasnt gainfully employed.
& if any1 should be horsewhipped
[ interesting that u say whipped; that isnt an ethnic taunt is it? As AfrAm were whipped horribly in NAmer]
is should be Kim. Kim went to the press badmouthing Edwards bc he didnt give her more $. She wanted more than what the court decided for child support, & bragged that "Elijah is gonna make me a millionaire".

There r faults on both side. Kim's sold the right to her life 4 this movie, not the Edwards, so dont be surprised that this movie has her as the victim/wonged person.
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Yes, it's an ethnic taunt and I'M BLACK. Yes, she went to the press and bad mouthed Blue Edwards---and she was justified. He was a deadbeat dad who wouldn't support the child. And I find it funny that the people who support Blue Edwards have little to say about the fact that he has only seen the boy TWICE since the verdict. What do you have to say about his bogus lawsuit now? He wasn't concerned about that kid. He was pissed that he knocked up a groupie and had to pay up.

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Hopelessly stupid people who make bad choices probably deserve each other, we don't want them polluting the minds of people who can actually manage their lives better, especially when it comes to creating a new life

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^This. It's idiotic to act like he's any worse than she is, that she's any better than he is. They're both idiots and that poor kid would be better off without either of them as parents.



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You have used an absolutely inept comparison for demonstrating that racial discrimination doesn't exist. I suppose that, during the election, you didn't see any of the rednecks standing in line to see Sarah Palin and carrying stuffed monkeys around calling them Barack Obama? Did you follow the news reports of whites in Appalachian country who emerged from voting booths and admitted that race was a factor in their voting for McCain-Palin--significant percentages of folks who actually admitted this to a perfect stranger at the end of a microphone? If a man of President Obama's educational background and eloquence had been blonde-haired and blue-eyed, given the conditions the Republican administration left this country in, he would have won 80%-20%; it wouldn't even have been close. Racism is alive and well.

All that being said, I find it outrageous that, after raising all that hell, Blue Edwards and his wife had nothing to do with his son after the Surpeme Court decision.

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As an african-american, even I thought it was a ridiculous reason for sole custody. Most of the biracial children I know were raised by white mothers, and they don't seem to be suffering from it.

However, having a person to talk about and give advice about racial discrimination would be nice if possible.

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I agree dawnm5. What court could grant custody to someone like Ty Rivers except for one that was looking at his wallet. I would have argued against the Rivers based on his irresponsible practice of having unprotected sex without acknowledging the consequences. People of his character and moral depravity contribute to the HIV/AIDS epidemic among African Americans in the United States.

Don't sweat the small stuff

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Racial discrimination is right there in your post. Until people like you stop thinking that a black man has a white mother. What, did Obama suddenly lose his mothers DNA so that he can be slotted into one group and she slotted into another? His half sister has an Asian father, so is she just Asian?

Obama is a special case though, because he has nothing in common with Afro-Americans. He has no slave ancestry. And I think it is hysterical that the first so-called "black" president has a white mother and an African from AFRICA father. I just think it is pathetic that he feels that he must pander to the sick racist psyches of U.S. blacks and whites. They'll all have to die before they give up this utter drek.

Until all people stop trying to frogmarch everyone else into some specious "racial grouping", this pernicious crap will just go on and on and on!!





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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/us/obamas-mother-had-african-forebear-study-suggests.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

and the reason he's "black" is because he looks black! He's personally experienced racism. In America. As a person that people see as black. He's married to a black woman. He has two black children.

If it wasn't for the Civil Rights movement, history books would still talk about how slaves loved being slaves. Martin Luther King Jr had a dream but he lived in reality where discrimination and racism exists. He fought against it but it's still an issue. Not talking about it doesn't make it go away.

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