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If the French had made this movie

posted 14 years ago by blaine3-2
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Only in America! Can sex be shown in a movie which brings about your downfall. This is our puritanical heritage. So he stole a buncha money ah ok give the guy a break and a new dealership. Have sex with a young woman when he is sixty? Crucify him! Very judgmental on the sex.

If the French had made this movie, his womanizing would have been portrayed as fairly normal more or less, maybe not so forgiving on the money side maybe not..but there would have been no lectures on co dependence or enabling or "you cant cheat death by screwing a 19 year old.

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[–] pltn 14 years ago

If French did it we would actually see some t*ts. I mean c'mon, one of the main topics of the movie is main character's sex life and there's actually no sex on the camera.

[–] mypcforums 14 years ago

Being a woman, I'm sick of seeing "some t*ts" in movies and tv shows. The shots only serve to make men drool and add nothing else to the story.

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[–] bwconk 14 years ago

Generally, sure, but not always. Then again, there are a lot of things in film that are strictly visual. Drawing the line at nudity seems awfully arbitrary.

Let's also take a moment to think about how ofter men are shown without their shirt on in films and movies for no apparent reason. And let's be honest, you're more likely to see a man's ass on television than you are a woman's.

[–] mypcforums 14 years ago

men are shown without their shirt on in films and movies for no apparent reason. And let's be honest, you're more likely to see a man's ass on television than you are a woman's.

You're kidding, right? How old are you?

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[–] bwconk 14 years ago

No, I am not kidding. Showing a man's bare ass on television these days is much easier to get past censors, probably because it is so seldom sexualized. Images perceived to titillate have much harsher restrictions than those, say, for comedy. The same rules carry over to movie ratings.

How old am I? Is that a joke? The question alone is a sign of mental immaturity. Please tell me how an argument would become invalid based on someone's age alone. To satiate your curiosity: I'm 24.

Honestly, I wonder who has more to legitimately contribute to a discussion, the person spouting grade school degradation--the same one who does not seem to notice the inherent connection between film/television and visuals--or the other guy.

[–] droche-3 14 years ago

Showing a man's bare ass on television these days is much easier to get past censors, probably because it is so seldom sexualized. Images perceived to titillate have much harsher restrictions than those, say, for comedy

You are absolute right. I used to write for television, and a bare-butt woman means that an erotic act will take place, or has taken place. It is sexually agressive. A bare-buttt man is comedy, such as mooning, frightened suitor making a quick getaway, or college prank. Funny, not erotic.

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[–] Crematory 13 years ago

What on earth his age has to do with the conversation?

[–] drrclavan 14 years ago

We men LOVE tits! They can make a movie.

[–] porfle 14 years ago

The issue isn't the age of Ben's sex partners or how many there are, it's who he chooses to have sex with. Often his choices are obviously inappropriate. I would hope that a French filmmaker would find them so as well.

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[–] AtheistRevolution 14 years ago

Yea its stupid. But for some reason nobody cares about Hugh Hefner screwing young girls.He's old enough to be those girls ancestor.

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[–] TheGunman 14 years ago

If people honestly think this film condemns an older man for having sex with a younger girl, they just don't understand the film.

[–] sarastro7 14 years ago

I agree. This movie is very ambivalent about whether Ben is actually pefectly justified in what he does or not. Ultimately it doesn't judge him - it leaves that up to the audience.

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[–] BigEmpty 14 years ago

Plus, the only reason he scored with a 19 yr old because the girl wanted to get back at her mother. The other coeds were disgusted by his advances. Except the MILF who was looking for some action anyway.

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[–] bleak 13 years ago

However you slice it, having sex with your partner's daughter while she is under your supervision is just bad form. If he thought he would get away with it without repercussion, well, he's just an idiot.

[–] isabellekw 12 years ago

I completely agree with you...i had the exact same feeling all through the movie...all the french movies (most european movies in general), I know of, that deals with sex and relationships are somewhat more mature, realistic, modern, and all-round less preachy style...what's with the guilt complex and sex?!? in fact, in french movies, the age of the main female protagonists are rarely mentioned simply because it has nothing to do with enjoyment of sex, or whether they are going to get married or whether they have a huge age difference or whether he is a politician or has a high-end job that depends on his maintaining an exemplary moral rectitude...there's nothing of that crap!!! "you can't cheat death by screwing a 19yr old"...LOL...yeah i was waiting for that phrase all through the movie and it made me laugh to hear it in the end...so since it's a story about redemption and being all virtuous and moral and preachy, what's the moral of the story then? that it's acceptable (and excusable) to go off tangent and have sex with lotsa 19yr olds and their mothers IF you have an incurable disease or you suddenly see yourself as old and cannot accept the fact!? mmm...interesting...or is it more realistic to say that he had sex with younger women because he enjoys sex with younger women...the ending is the only redeeming factor about the movie, about us never knowing HIS choice :)

[–] vnse 12 years ago

OP:

The donwfall wasn't due to sex with an 18 year old. It was sex with an 18 year old of the woman he was dating.

I'm pretty sure a French woman whose boyfriend screwed her 18 year old daughter would have acted the same way.

[–] BewareOfTheAvalanche 9 years ago

There's the person that thinks that sex cannot be harmful and the person who thinks sex is the devil's tool. Truth is extremes are never healthy. The movie wasn't about a man who likes sex, it was about a man has no sexual restraints at all and is willing to cheat, sleep with his girlfriend's daughter, daughter's friend and friend's grilfriend. Anyone who thinks this sort of sexual practive never leads to major consequences is naive or delusional.