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Warrior top 250???

posted 12 years ago by sethhackworth123
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I value and appreciate the imbd top 250 very much. For the most part I agree with most the movies on the list, maybe not the particular order but most the movies in this list deserve to be there, and most of the movies that I think should be in there are 7.7.-7.9 which is reassuring to know that some other movies I love are that close to being there. Warrior is NOT one of these movies. It is an average movie, not bad but not amazing. This movie is a 6.8-7.5 range which is a GOOD movie. There is nothing wrong with that score a lot of great movies have scores like this, but TOP 250?????? HOW?????? Maybe I was just expecting something much better because of the rating but I don't know I was disappointed. Rocky is a very similar movie and Rocky is in every way more superior. I can't believe this movie is higher rated than Rocky. IT'S ROCKY!!!! Probably the greatest sports/underdog movie ever made. The script, the acting, the emotion, the characters in Rocky is almost perfect. I really hope this movie slides more and more down the top 250 until it is gone. I'm not trying to be a dick and bash this movie but the top 250 is sacred to film buffs, it's a great guideline for us to find new movies to watch and compare and discuss which movie is better. Warrior should never be in a conversation of this caliber. Warrior right now is close to movies like Platoon, Trainspotting, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and Into the Wild on the top 250 and all of these murder Warrior in every aspect of filmaking. I hate to be a dick to loyal fans of this movie but I can't help it. If someone came up to me and told me Warrior is better than Platoon I would not trust their judgment on movies really. I don't even think this movie deserves a fair judgement for me to discuss WHY I DID NOT ENJOY THE MOVIE! It's an okay film but a pure joke for the top 250.

[–] sethhackworth123 12 years ago

I also want to add that Raging Bull is probably the best sports movie ever but I don't count it as a sports film, it's much more than that. So that's why I used Rocky it's a little more comparable for me.

[–] Cineman17 12 years ago

I thought The Fighter was allot better.

it also has two brothers who fight to make a living

[–] Coldust 10 years ago

I completely agree with everything said.
Except I didn't even like "Warrior" as much as you did.

I rated it a 5..... so unrealistic... It should be categorized under Fantasy.

[–] HKozi 10 years ago

I hate our modern civilization, people have too much free time. Why the hell do you waste time on a movie website board when you don't even like the concept of "cinema".

[–] chris12345678 9 years ago

I totally agree with that assessment and rating. This is fantasy, a cocktail of ideas from a bunch of movies that some mistake for a "fresh breath". Yes, "The Fighter" is much better than this. I think it's the MMA fans who click 10 for any movie in which a character even mentions MMA in passing, without any regard for its quality. And of course "The Warrior" plays on emotions and patriotism much the same way "The Patriot" did to bump up its rating and rake in more money. The setup for the big event is totally childish and of course there is an undefeated Russian fighter, a ferocious monster that eats good looking American boys for breakfast. There aren't even any Russian MMA fighters for crying out loud! This is a very calculated effort. It could have been a decent flick but they overcooked this steak. Take this one back, waiter, and hand me my hat and coat. I'm not hungry anymore.

[–] Degree7 12 years ago

Agreed, every cliche in the book was used here.

Abusive father who wants to see his family, two brothers who hate each other, annoying wife, guy who will lose his house, and worst of all... A TRAINING MONTAGE!

This is cardinal sin #1 in Sports Movies.

6/10 at best.

Being is the great explainer.

[–] Bince_19 12 years ago

Also agreed; this movie was almost unbearably riddled with cliché. I couldn't say what accounts for this film being so loved by people but to me it really sticks out like a sore thumb on the list; some films I don't personally enjoy but can understand their placement whereas this film is just so overly predictable and lame I'm baffled it's considered one of the better films of all time.

In the motions and the things that you say...it all will fall, fall right into place.

[–] Degree7 12 years ago

I also don't know why Nolte was considered for an Academy Award nomination for his role, he did nothing special, just mumbled a lot. Especially when considering how many of his past roles have deserved more acclaim, like "North Dallas Forty", "Mulholland Falls", or "The Thin Red Line". And remember how they left out any nomination for Albert Brooks in 'Drive'? He was playing totally against type in that movie, and was the best part about it!

In my honest opinion, Tom Hardy was probably more deserving of a nomination than Nick Nolte was.

I just feel like critics these days praise any old crap that comes out, chumps like A.O. Scott, Peter Travers, and Roger Ebert are all a bunch of old fat f&cks getting paid under the table to butter up whatever film comes out, all the while thinking they're so elite and special for having such great taste in film criticism. In reality, they make horribly questionable decisions by praising sh*tty films.

Being is the great explainer.

[–] sethhackworth123 12 years ago

I agree with you Bince as well, some movies I may not love in the top 250 but I do not question them being there. They are great movies because of the writing, actors, characters, etc. I might not like it but I can still understand it's placement as a great film. This film just did not make that criteria, it was average, completely unrealistic, and predictable.

[–] Krhnksp 12 years ago

What's the main idea?
The weakest boy won again like the other American Cliches ?
Why? How can he be pushed? Brendan shows us that he won't loose his detached house so he can beat all of the strongest men ..wowww! what a remarkable purpose!
This film can be better if Brendan dies on the semi-final or Tommy kills Brendan on the final by mistake..
With this end, the score can not be more than 6 and i can only give 5/10
Imdb 250? it is a joke for us?

[–] Julie_Julii 11 years ago

What many came to realize about the movie is that while it may be full of cliches, it isn't defined by these cliches and became something else entirely - something that worked its way into people's hearts.

And once that happens any argument against it becomes pretty much invalid.

[–] portugas_aiman 11 years ago

i couldn't agree with you more

[–] Chocolegz 11 years ago

Man, I totally agree with everything you said. I predicted the plot AND the montage in the 1st 15 mins. Some forget that some pp remember the montage overload of the 8os/90s. Good acting but 6/10

[–] Ryu_Darkwood 12 years ago

It's a little bit like with Slumdog Millionaire and La Vita e Bella in that this is a movie that presents itself through pure emotion. It's sentimental and corny all right, but many viewers (including myself) are enthralled by the careful build-up and the extremely rewarding pay-off at the end. In that sense it does belong on a list like the IMDB 250, because that specific list is not only a representation of the best movies but also a representation of the movies that manage to touch a majority of people. There's enough to be said about why this isn't exactly the best piece of cinema out there, but you can't deny the massive appeal that it has on many people. If this would be on a critical list of cinematic masterpieces from all time I would agree with you, but since IMDB is much broader than that, it is not that big a deal that a movie of this level finds its way to that list.

[–] slappymauser 12 years ago

LOL this movie is better than most of the films in the top 100, so I guess being in the 250 isn't that bad.

[–] konam 12 years ago

Agreed.

Not a bad movie, certainly not top250. This movie's a 6.5~7.00 in my book.

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[–] abelgg2 12 years ago

This guy just said at all. I compare this movie to the Wrestler which in my opinion, the Wrestler is a much better movie than the Warrior, but as of right now the Warrior has a higher rating, so dont get to caught up in IMDB top 250 list dude. A do agree it is a cliche movie, but not all cliche movies get to be on top of all of the cliche movies out there. =)

[–] dirty_dutchman 12 years ago

I value and appreciate the imbd top 250 very much.

There's your first problem. The Top 250 is a fan list, nothing more. Are the movies in the top 10 the actual 10 best movies ever made? Nope. One of them is, but that's my opinion. Obviously, a lot of people are of the opinion Warrior is a good movie. It's a popularity list. Sooner or later, people will realize this and take it for what it's worth...which isn't much.

The easiest way to validate your own opinions is by agreeing with everyone else.

[–] mrmovielover 12 years ago

Glad you're losing sleep over it

[–] mcrandle 12 years ago

Great performances from the brothers and very good technical work on the fight scenes (better than any boxing movie in many, many years) make it an above average sports movie. But I agree the script was so cliche ridden there's no way this belongs in the top 250.

[–] ikke_for_let 12 years ago

Maybe it's because Tom Hardy is in it. His movies mysteriously tend to get high ratings. He has 3 movies in imdb 250. Granted 2 of those are Christopher Nolan movies. But his other movies have high ratings too. For instance Lawless is currently at 8.1.

[–] j-steel 12 years ago

The law of the averages usually works so I trust IMDB but, of course, my own opinions can vary slightly (or considerably).

I didn't particularly like Fargo... Everyone has great films they aren't that keen on but, just because it's not their favorite film doesn't mean it isn't that good. Perhaps the themes of this movie aren't particularly attractive to you. For example, I have a successful older brother and can relate to Brendan's frustration in being left in the dark as a kid.