Loved this film But I got some major questions (Spoilers)

1. I believe he started the killings cuz he was having the visions...we don;t see how he started having the visions but he said he kept seeing all their suffering so it prob drove him somewhat nuts and thus a new path for him is born ;)

2. Maybe he knew what he did to his daughter and thus thought he would understand what HE was doing and in the end kill him out of mercy...but as others said Hopkins only killed her after she suffered for long enough...when SHE really wanted to die now. Not so early as to prevent whatever moment of clarity we experience from that *beep* time...? I dunno. I assume that's the purpose of the twist at the end - that colin knew that secret..? Maybe?

3. He was nuts. and he had purpose and thas to get hopkins to kill him. the thought of doing good never entered their minds cuz hes a madman... was his connection to the dude who shot jd morgan established though?

4. for a second I thought the twist was gonna be colin was a doctor or an orderly or something...then I thought maybe they'd be really hammy and make him have been at the hospital when hopkins' daughter died. Like he saw hopkins everyday and the suffering lol thank god that didn't happen. I was waiting for this film to just suck at any moment but i liked it alot. i wonder if the nods to se7en wee incidental or accidental due to the films' original screenplay?

I think David Fincher messed up having this squashed as Ei8ht. Se7en is a perfect film. Perfect, that's rare. So I get it but I always wanted to see morgan as det summerset again...and this would have worked for me. I'm sure the killer would have mention brad pitt and the first movie as a vision he saw of sommerset's of whatever. something simple. but hopins recluse ways, the opera he listens too, I would have assumed his wife from the first movie would have replaced the daughter. Freeman would have been great and the film had some visual nods to se7en like the hotdog in the RAIN scene but some of the other stuff didn't match up or come out right...anyways I think if Fincher had produced it - would have turned out top shelf.

I think the olny thing I am angry about is that film wasn't Ei8ht.

1. I was really wondering about that as well. Maybe he was tortured by these visions? Maybe he predominantly sees suffering and not ways to save lives. His motivation really wasn't very clear. Maybe he also saved a lot of lives but we don't know about it?

I think I would have liked the movie more if Charles was a bit more our of his mind, maybe thinking he's the angel of death or mercy. I mean if you have this kind of ability you might easily believe you have it for a reason.

One main argument against these mercy killings is that you inflict suffering on the loved ones left behind, you spread fear and terror in the community. He even addresses that by saying when they hear later about the terminal illness they are relieved they went quick. But it's still not rational to end someone else's life. If they want they can always commit suicide themselves. Well except they cling to hope while he knows there is none.

2. He leads John there so he kills and goes on to continue his important work. Which again is weird because how important is it that someone else continues this work really?

I guess this means the killers motivations isn't that he suffers from seeing all those people in suffering. He genuinely believes this has to be done.

Regarding No 2 Charles had two objectives :
1. To force or convince John to kill him because he was dying (apparently you missed the "I'm dying John" line), because perhaps he thought it would be dishonest to make an exception for himself, and/or he didn't want to suffer, just like his victims. Charles clearly knew that John had euthanized his daughter.
2. To convince John to carry on his "work". Be a "mercy killer" in his place.

He clearly succeeded in his first objective, due to that stupid FBI agent who rushed like a little mouse in a cheese trap, despite knowing what Charles was capable off. I don't think he succeeded in the second objective, unless he saw further into the future John killing people as well. But no, that was not John's style but a boy can hope, right?

Fanboy : a person who does not think while watching.

Charles was apparently more concerned with ending suffering than catching murderers, so he would not have worked for the police (even if they had been willing to overlook the fact that he had killed people).
Although John was much older, Charles apparently could not continue his work, so he wanted to explain himself and try to get John to continue his work. It was suggested that he had killed more than 60 terminally ill people, and there may have been a lot more that were terminally ill, but no one knew.
Charles didn't need to do research, as such, because he was psychic, and a stronger psychic than John.

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