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Wow. . .

posted 13 years ago by nprav3
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I have never seen a film that could reinforce every stereotype of the typical American black male so perfectly. If the director is in any way concerned with white racism against African Americans, then he should be aware that his fowl creation has only validated some racist white person's idea of who black men are. Congrats. But who's to talk about racism, when this film itself is the epitome of it, not to mention how horribly sexist it is. Wow, just wow, to that subtle message of how to deal with black women, when they are stepping out of line. I mean, that really takes the cake. Frankly, this is what I got from it. . ."don't beat black women, but also do not show weakness or else you are deemed a 'punk'. Instead, point your boney finger at her aggressively, showing that you are capable of a beating." Or did I hear you wrong?

I am going to be honest though, this is quite possibly the best 'WORST DOCUMENTARY' I have ever seen in my life, quite entertaining actually, so it wasn't a complete waste of time. I will be showing this to my friends, for a night of drinking and mockery, free of charge. . . of course, thanks to the interwebz, because there is no way in hell I would ever spend a penny on this steaming pile of poop, but it is definitely worth keeping just for poop and giggles.

I'm sorry, but if black women are angry at black men, it probably has a lot to do with black men. And doesn't it? Wasn't that the point? Wasn't it expressed that these women have 'daddy' issues, and that is the root of their problems? Well. . . their fathers were black, right? And they were male, right? And well, that's a lot of black men, because according to this film, it would seem that a lot of black women suffer from this supposed "angry black woman syndrome'. So, what I got from this film was that, yes, it is the black male's fault. But really, that is unrealistic, completely shallow to even say so, and anyone who says otherwise would lack intellect, but still, that is the message I got from this film, so your intentions failed, miserably, mister director. But, I thank you, for entertaining me so.

[–] C.S.Wood 13 years ago

I'm sorry, but if black women are angry at black men, it probably has a lot to do with black men. And doesn't it? Wasn't that the point? Wasn't it expressed that these women have 'daddy' issues, and that is the root of their problems? Well. . . their fathers were black, right? And they were male, right?

But does that make it right to bring that anger into a relationship with a person who had nothing to do with causing that initial anger?

I really don't see this is a "black" issue, I see it as a "relationship" issue. Men typically do not want to be around a woman who is angry and confrontational all the time.

The one thing about this doc they didn't really seem to point out was that many of the "angry" women they interviewed didn't bemoan the fact they were angry, they seemed to welcome it, accept it, and expect the men to also welcome and accept it, which is idiotic.

Women who are angry all the time or are comfortable with anger should seek counseling. But if she likes the angry then she won't, and that's sad. A relationship can't run on anger and bitterness.

Don't try to cash in love, that check will always bounce.

[–] Misa_Malone 12 years ago

This is a Black issue. The problems discussed in this film are inherent to our communities, but the problem with the documentary is the leading, biased, misrepresentation by the interviewer. He's very clearly an angry Black man.

Anyway, I think there's a big problem with our famililes. There is no father figure or role model in the majority of Black households. Mothers, and more recently, grandmothers, are raising children alone, without input from the fathers. And this has a disastrous impact on all Black relationships and inter-relationships. Of course there are very important outside factors, like racism, poverty, unemployment, violence, poor school systems, but the lack of structure in the homes just makes it much worse...

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[–] C.S.Wood 12 years ago

There is no father figure or role model in the majority of Black households. Mothers, and more recently, grandmothers, are raising children alone, without input from the fathers.

Although this is true, I don't feel it should be used as a blanket excuse. There are plenty of children who grow up with both parents and ended up having problems and there are children who were raised by a single parent or grandparents and grew up to be just fine.

I agree this doc was biased and not perfect by any means, however the real people who were interviewed were the best part of it. Their answers seemed honest and based on personal feelings. And the fact is if you are an angry person and you routinely offload that anger on your partner, the relationship will suffer. This is why I feel it's not just a black issue because this isn't exclusive to just one culture. An absentee parent can have the same negative effect as an abusive or neglectful parent.

But if people's personal hangups are keeping them from being happy and making others unhappy, that person needs to change. If they can't change or refuse to change then maybe they deserve to be unhappy. I have every right not to get into a relationship with someone like that, or to get out of one if it becomes that.

If an angry person, male or female, wants to be happy, they have to let go of the anger.

Don't try to cash in love, that check will always bounce.