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3.0??? Come on people!!

posted 15 years ago by e_blakely
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I've been on Imdb long enough to realize that practically any movie with a black cast that doesn't star Will smith or Denzel automatically gets a low rating of 5.9 and under but come on. 3.0! So any of you who have seen this movie can really with a straight face say this movie was as bad as vanilla ice's movie "cool as ice"? (similar rating). you guys are either just trolls who HAVEN'T seen the movie, Just didn't like the title or bitter women who hated the truths brought out in this movie. that maybe , Just Maybe many of the BW or women in general that bitch about no good men need to look in the mirror. Anyhow this movie/documentary was excellent. Only flaw was some of the scenes they had scripted. seemed kind of unbelievable & exaggerated. but nevertheless this movies is excellent and it creates intelligent dialogue.

[–] Son_Of_Malcolm 15 years ago

I agree 1000000000000000000000% many black women cant admit to thier flaws so JUST BLAME THE BLACK MAN,,i went through things with my lady and sometimes I just want to scream on how she doesnt hear A thing I say and turns my point into something else,in other words she hears what she wants to hear or what she wants it to be

FRUSTRATING

IM NOT PERFECT, I ADMIT TO MY MISTAKES BUT MANY BLACK WOMEN CANT?

I REALLY WONDER WHAT THE PROBLEM IS?????????????

H DLUM

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[–] Redeverlasting 15 years ago

i watched it. i wasn't impressed mainly b/c it didn't show the dude's personality. yeah, his wife acted up sometimes and could be cold at times, but he was this meek, mild, man- oh yeah, until he got mad. i felt i was getting a one sided story. i knew a man put this entire film together b/c he didn't showcase anything ya'll do to get on some nerves. maybe it would have received higher ratings had he had his woman help him w/ the script!

another thing i wasn't impressed with was i felt like this movie just left people hanging. it didn't solve anything. what was the solution? i dont' think the main character even found that out. he was still left floating aimlessly around- satisfied b/c he found a woman that doesn't complain about him leaving the toilet seat up? a woman that appreciates his every whim and sits back w/ a smile. well, let's hope for her sake that she never begins getting mad/reacting b/c he leaves his dirty socks on the floor and there you go. cycle repeated toss her out?
i guess i'm feeling like what it was lacking was a christian/spritual message. it's true. couples that pray together, stay together. every couple argues, screws up, and does things that gets on each other's nerves. what sets my marriage apart from others though is our personal relationship w/ god and the commitment we each have to be loving, sharing individuals. that commitment makes the bond tighter where it would never get to the point i would cut my husband down everyday, we're not speaking to one another, he or i needing to seek love or acceptance outside the home and so on. i didn't hear anybody give a christian perspective on love dating and marriage nor was it the concept of the movie so that's my opinion

one good point that was resounded numerous times is that my fellow sisters need to stop dating the same loser types expecting to get a different result. hope at least one of them learned something.

SHOUT OUT TO SEKU FROM THE N.O.C.! i saw you all up in the movie giving your 2 cents -mike&kim

[–] e_blakely 15 years ago

Oh please, I mean...I do respect your opinion and will admit this as with any other movie has it's flaws but I still don't think they warrant such a distaste for the movie. To your first point how many "one sided" movies have we seen that comes from the other side. For example take "diary of a mad black woman" That wasn't ridiculously one sided? they didn't go overboard as portraying her as this perfect , doo-doo don't stink woman who was just married to this all out cruel punk? That's pretty much the case in mostly all tyler perry flicks. Again I don't think the director in any way was trying to just simply "put it back" on y'all and say See it's not our fault, I just think the intent which was repeated often that again maybe , JUST maybe much of the drama that women experience is self induced. I really don't think it's unreasonable or wrong to point that fact out. Cause truth of the matter is , regardless of what the media,books, movies will constantly tell you there are many good brotha's out there That really try to be what women claim to want , but catch undeserved hell.

I do agree you on the lack of christian perspective, If I remember correctly you had a few folks mention God, but at the same time I kind of think it was imperative that the director were to set this movie apart in many ways. What I mean is I really think Tyler perry and the many "gospel" plays that are out there has been done one too many times. It's bad enough he used a similar title as did tyler perry, I think if he relied too heavily to present a spiritual message, Then I think the vast majority would just condemn this film as a cheap tyler perry knockoff. So to clarify I'm in no way saying its wise or ever good to leave God out of any aspect of life but I do feel with respect to coming from a different angle and setting this movie apart , director achieved that.

Bottomline of this thread , movie wasn't perfect and could very well have been a bit better but 3.0 is ridiculous. It shouldn't bother me cause I know how imdb gets down when it comes to rating black movies but it still urks me to see the trolls here misrepresent a good movie. I personally know quite a few trolls who all out called for a boycott of this movie before it even came out based on the internet clip. Spreading untruths that he "ends up with the white girl at the end" just crazy. bothers me how good , thought provoking films like this get dogged out but ignorant crap like boyz in the hood, hustle & flow and baby boy gets accolades.

[–] temperamint-1 14 years ago

Boyz in the Hood was a great movie! A classic! It showcased the lives of young black men in the ghetto, and the sad reality of living in the ghetto, without glorifying the violence in the community. It was thought provoking too. Ignorant crap? That's pretty harsh, and not true.

Hustle & Flow and Baby Boy were also good flims. The former being about a pimp trying to find a way out of a dead end life through music, and the events which takes place with the moves he makes. The latter was about a young man living with his mother, who needed to be a man and take care of his family.

I can tell you some movies that I thought were ignorant crap, and should get a low rating;

1.Booty Call.
2.I do...I did(which I saw on BET some nights ago).
3.Two Can Play that Game.
4.Three Can Play that Game.
5.Don't be a Menace to South Central while drinking your Juice in the Hood.

To comment on the movie though, I read that it was loosely based on the screenwriter. He is telling his story, and giving his point of view. I don't think it was bad enough to get such a low rating.

[–] LTUM 14 years ago

two can play that game was a good movie, you must not have even watched it.

why didnt you like it?

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[–] Son_Of_Malcolm 15 years ago

you missed the point of the film ,so you are either this type of woman or a weak dude............
H DLUM

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[–] e_blakely 15 years ago

ok ok boonya all that isn't even called for, Just because Treazzure disagrees doesn't mean it's cool just to come here and be a troll and disrespect her like that. You need to take that mess elsewhere.

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[–] timalexander 15 years ago

Yes, that is the exact point.

And I should know - I am the filmmaker, and it was my life on the screen.

Tim Alexander
Writer/Producer/Director
Diary of a Tired Black Man

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[–] Screenwriter_Brandi 15 years ago

I agreed with so many of the things the guys said.

waiting for "american violet", "precious", and "medicine for melancholy"

[–] C.S.Wood 15 years ago

i felt i was getting a one sided story. i knew a man put this entire film together b/c he didn't showcase anything ya'll do to get on some nerves.

But really, isn't that always the case with movies like this? Except here it's from a man's prospective.

Forget the "Black" in the title. Look at virtually any movie where a woman is trying to hook up with a man and you usually get a montage of stupid/dirty/disgusting men trying to hit on the woman until that one perfect guy shows up. And if a man is the lead character, he finds the absolute perfect woman who has no real flaws then he screws up, she dumps him or they break up, and then the guy has to make the mad dash across town to stop the woman from getting on a plane or leaving town or marrying another guy and has to make a fool out of himself in front of a bunch of people before she can take his sorry ass back.

That's because relationship movies are made for and advertised to women and women, on the whole, do not like to be reminded they make mistakes. And when a movie shows a woman that makes mistakes, and her mistakes are clearly mistakes, then it's sexist. Lifetime Channel is one of the most sexist networks I've ever seen (when are almost always portrayed as victims while men are almost always portrayed as abusers) but only one woman I know of refuses to watch that station for that reason.

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[–] baltimoregoddess 15 years ago

I cant believe the movie has a 3 either. It should be a 1. And thats being nice. Black woman have a lot of flaws but who is it for this guy to try to sterotype all BW to say they are all angry, they are all greedy, dumb, and hate white women because HE made bad choices in women. There are good women and back women just as there are good and bad black men. But you would be pissed when movies come out to deplict the BM as just a thug that sits at home all day and drink and smoke and goes to jail.

I am not angry at all. Just disappointed that I tried to support a black man and black film that turned out to be a hate movie on black women.

[–] timalexander 15 years ago

You have got to be kidding. Look at the movie again - almost every black man I interviewed said "Some black women, not all" No such things were ever said - and black men are constantly shown as thugs and losers in film and main stream news media - men don't get twisted, we are secure when we know we are a good man.

Either you are not being honest in your review to dissuade people from seeing this film, or you had a major emotional reaction to it because you see yourself and it doesn't feel good. But either way you are a angry black woman - no matter how you try to say you are not - because a non-angry woman appreciates the films message and stands in strong support of it. Unlike the angry women such as yourself. You are wrong for your untrue remarks on my film and it's message.

[–] Tro44 14 years ago

Hope you dont mind, but I added you to my Facebook. Bout to buy thie movie now on Amazon

WoW I cant believe some of the comments in this thread.

The Black Women here bash the movie because they say they dont fit that profile of those angry Black Women.

Well what about the Tyler Parry movies? When has he showed a Movie that wasnt from the Victim Women's point of view?

But I guess those are alright since they attack the Men, right?

The a load of Bull.

I ask you,,,,,,

To those Black Women who hated the movie, do you agree that many Black Women treat their men like this?

if not, please explain why,,,,,,,,,

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[–] masinotte 14 years ago

I personally did not like this movie (at all). The comments made in the film did seem to generalize to all black women despite the 'some black women' line included in the comments made. I was offended by this movie (as I am not like this). Which 'some' are they referring to anyway? little ones, big ones, skinny ones.... However, (maybe I only see it this way because I'm Caribbean-Canadian)I think this movie is aimed toward American Black women and I can easily understand why they would take offense to it.

Btw. Diary of A Black Woman focused on the trials of ONE black woman, while this film outwardly bashed black women with countless crappy actor takes and biased ignorant comments from people on the street. If 'some' of these black women are so obnoxious and evil, WHY do these 'poor, innocent, meek black men' date them. What idiot would date someone who is so obviously poison?

I gave this film a 1 (only because there is no lower rating possible to give it). It didn't surprise me that it went straight to dvd. Say what you want, but the ratings speak for themselves.

You want a project Alexander? Try making a film that presents both sides. This film could have actually been good if you had explored both sides and tried to inspire cohesion in the black community instead of just projecting an obvious personal distaste on film.

However, I don't regret watching this movie (even though I didn't like it). If there are a lot of men out there that feel this way, then it needs to be addressed PROPERLY.

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[–] LTUM 14 years ago

masonite,

it sounds like you watched it with some presuppositions of your own, and that it went over your head, just a bit. didn't sem one sided at all to me. i wonder why you would even say that

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[–] girlyattimes2 15 years ago

I think a 3.0 is being generous.

[–] Novestarr26 14 years ago

Actually "Don't be a Menace to South Central while drinking your Juice in the Hood" was making fun of those types of movies portrayed in that film. I have no issue with Tim making this film, but whatever statement it sends out there will add to the many stereotypes put on black women. What would be nice would be a film that has a honest,open and positive dialogue where black men and woman can discuss the issues between bm/bw. Just my two cents...

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[–] masinotte 14 years ago

Agreed Novestarr. Presuppositions like what LTUM?

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[–] hecantune 12 years ago

It's real simple; society, especially women, are so conditioned and used to not being called out on THEIR b#ll$h!t that when a man does have the nerve to speak up he's out of line.

So what if it's one-sided. Maybe we need more one-sided views because we've been getting the woman's pov shoved down our damn throats 24/7 since the 70's. Tell me I'm lying. Some men are tired of suffering quietly while women stomp around and trash a man's name, reputation, his LIFE, anytime things don't go their way. If you believe that the women they're talking about don't exist then you are extremely naive. If you know that there are women out there then they need to be called out and you SHOULDN'T be defending them.

Back off! ... Way off!