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Hellraiser

posted 13 years ago by ecs67-1
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Hi, guys. Would you consider this a good or a bad copy of Hellraiser? I personally didn't like it too much, but I guess if you like Hellraiser (and I do) you could actually enjoy this one. I guess....

[–] keeleevoncupcake 13 years ago

They aren't alike that way. That's like saying every horror movie that features demons and a love triangle is a copy of Hellraiser. It is however very Clive Barker-esque in general. Comparisons can certainly be made, but Necromentia is its own story.

Now, all the reviews I've seen saying "Such and such meets SAW!" just don't make any sense. Silent Hill, on the other hand!

[–] LexiconDevil 13 years ago

I don't know. Replace the Ouija board with the box and the extreme focus on sadomasochism as a call/portal to this labyrinth like other world of demons and it really does seem a bit more than simply inspired by Clive Barker.

I do think Tao though definitely tried to do something with the original concept. I wouldn't necessarily consider it totally derivative just maybe not quite separated enough from the influence.

I definitely agree about the Saw thing though. Sounds like people just trying to attach a popular movie name to something for the possible draw.

[–] Aaron_da_miller 13 years ago

It annoys me that every movie that has some kind of torture in it these days is inspired by saw. There are movies that definitely would not exist without it (I am looking at you Hostel), but then there are other movies like 'The Killing Gene' (aka W Delta Z), that have someone getting tortured in it, and people rip on it for being like Saw (even though it does not).

I do feel that Necromentia took a lot of inspiration from Clive Barker (Hellraiser in particular), but it also had a new and fresh look at it. If anything we should be petitioning this guy to make the Hellraiser remake/reboot whatever. He made this movie with a budget of nothing, I would love to see what he can do when given something substantial to work with.

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[–] razzzor-1 13 years ago

This movie is more than just drawing inspiration from Hellraiser. As soon as Hagen got to hell and we saw the leader and his chained 'dog', I figured this could easily have been Pinhead and called another Hellraiser sequel. A sequel which would be equally as average as the other sequels after part 3. It's biggest problem was the budget (the entire world of hell is in a cheap looking corridor?) and lack of any kind of conclusion.

But it would be more fitting as a Hellraiser sequel as some of the ACTUAL sequels we got.

I did like the cinematography in this, but that's not enough to hide a story that goes nowhere.

[–] scotty999 12 years ago

Hellraiser is much better

[–] Indifferent_Observer 12 years ago

While I agree it has a Hellraiser feel to it, I don't think this movie is anything like Hellraiser.

Then again I usually disagree with people drawing comparisons from one movie to the next. Its usually an opinion shared by very few users on every single movie thread on IMDB. Few, if any are ever correct and all are aggravating.

[–] webwarrior601543 8 years ago

I can see why it would be compared to Hellraiser. I am a die-hard Hellraiser fan, I even own a clockwork Lemarchand Configuration, so when I say this it comes from true obsession: this is not Hellraiser. LOL

If it drew inspiration from anything, I would guess more from The Hellbound Heart, the novella that inspired Hellraiser. Hellraiser actually cut out much of the deeper meaning that was expressed in The Hellbound Heart to appeal to a larger audience. But Necromentia didn't need to do that. The Hellbound Heart focused heavily on desire and the lengths and pains people were willing to go through to achieve those desires whatever they may be. The cenobites were merely but one possible consequence. This movie explored these people's desires and the lengths to which they would go.

Inspired by other sources, very likely, but almost everything is these days. But that doesn't mean it can't be a new story. And Necromentia is its own film. ;-)