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What exactly is 'Big Brother'?


I am watching this right now on IFC. I notice they mention "Big Brother" several times. According to Wikipedia I know it's a reality show but I have never seen it before. So far the am watching the first episode but don't really understand the format of the show. You get voted off just because? They also have this huge eviction show? Never seen it so that is why I ask the questions. Could someone please explain this for me? Thanks

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You have never seen or heard of the show Big Brother?

Lucky bastard.

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Yes, they have to evict someone from their ranks every week by vote (rules of the game, so yes it is "just because").

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The housemates each nominate 2 other housemates and the hm with the most votes are put up for a public vote. The hm with the highest public vote is then evicted.

It was a HUGE show in the uk and ran for 11 years and 11 series with about 7 or 8 celebrity versions.

Words cannot stress how massive this show was and the fact that they got the host Davina and some of the previous Housemates makes Dead Set work in britain on a whole different level.

"When there is no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth"

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"Words cannot stress how massive this show was and the fact that they got the host Davina and some of the previous Housemates makes Dead Set work in britain on a whole different level. "

i'm glad you said this. i watch big brother in the U.S. and i had the feeling that they had former housemates on it, and that Davina was the U.K.'s "Julie" (our host here) but i wasn't sure. thanks.

also i like how they manipulated the vote and made Pippa the one to be cast off when she was slightly behind the dude that let the first zombie into the big brother house.

here, the housemates always vote for the eviction.

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I'll second that, you're very lucky to have not heard of it. where do you live? i'd like to live somewhere like that.

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Big Brother is just plain awful, you are luck you haven't heard of it. It appeals to people who like to wear very cheap clothes and talk like they have never been educated before.

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It is a reference to a character in Orwell's novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, representing oppressive control.
"Inspired" by it, someone created a tv format in which you get to spy 24/7 on a bunch of people. Some call it the greatest show, others the lowest form of entertaining.

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What surprised me the most about the BB format (as I watched it for the first time in Dead Set) was that there was actually a Big Brother (disembodied voice) they all spoke to. I thought whomever was watching on TV was the 'big brother' of the title (as explained by poster who mentioned Orwell).

So were all the housemates in Dead Set alumni from BB? Or were a couple of them actors?

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Big Brother actually referred to the production staff who monitored the housemates 24/7 and with whom they could communicate with in the diary room. The production staff se the tasks, punished housemates etc.

In dead set the central housemates were actors playing Big Brother contestants in a fictional series of Big Brother (both shows were produced by the same company so the could use the real Big Brother sets. Several "real" Big Brother contestants from past "real" series also appear in the show.

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More of a detailed explanation for you, at least with the U.S. Big Brother--the housemates all come to live together in one house for the summer. Each week, they compete in a usually bizarre competition (racing through a pool of jelly or other sticky food, for instance, to get all the pieces to assemble a puzzle or answer specific questions about other housemates). The winner of the competition becomes 'head of household' for the week. THEY get to nominate two people for eviction that week and get a blinged out room to stay in. BUT, before all the housemates vote off one of the two people, there's a 'power of veto' competition. Whoever wins THIS competition can chose to REMOVE one of the nominees off the 'block' (as it's called). This means the Head of Household now has to choose a replacement nominee.

While these competitions are important, what the game is more about, really, is people building alliances. Don't put me on the block and I'll protect you next time, etc. So it's all manipulations, backstabbing, lying, deceiving. Friendships are formed, friendships are destroyed.

--Daniel W. Kelly, author of "Closet Monsters" and "Horny Devils."

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While these competitions are important, what the game is more about, really, is people building alliances. Don't put me on the block and I'll protect you next time, etc. So it's all manipulations, backstabbing, lying, deceiving. Friendships are formed, friendships are destroyed.


In classic UK Big Brother, openly scheming to build alliances was strictly forbidden. Housemates who were caught talking about nominations, or even using code to signal their intentions, were punished by Big Brother. So forming a strategy was trickier in the UK. Housemates had to form voting blocks without ever speaking about their intentions. Any utterance on the subject of who to nominate had to be disguised as something else, and even then the producers would usually figure it out.

I don't know what current UK Big Brother is like, because the whole concept was ruined when 24/7 Live Feed for public viewing was discontinued many years ago. But there were certain other conventions that housemates had to follow if they wanted to win, considering that it was the UK public who would vote them out:

- Never say you want to win or you think you might win. This kind of statement is read as arrogance by the UK public and they will vote you out.

- Keep saying that you're just there "for the experience."

- Never mention a strategy for winning, even if you have one. This is called "having a game plan" by UK audiences, and they will vote you out.

- The more stupid you can appear in front of the BB audience, the better they like you. It's not possible to say anything too dumb or clueless. If the UK audience thinks you're guileless and natural, you're in the running to win.

- If you want someone voted out, keep saying that they have a game plan and they're "fake." If the UK audience believes you, they'll vote that person out.

- When making nominations, don't say the real reason you want them out. Most housemates dissemble when giving the reason for their nominations in the Diary Room, which is required. The individual nominations and reasons for nomination are kept secret from the housemates, but are shown to the entire voting TV audience. In order to avoid looking vindictive or scheming, the fake reason will usually be something like "I think he's really missing his mum" or "she seems to have lost herself in here."

In classic UK Big Brother, there were no competitions for "head of household" or "power of veto." Those concepts did not exist. Any competition that was held was for extra money in the food budget for the whole group, or perhaps extra alcohol or party supplies for the whole group.

Coming to the show from an outsider's perspective, it was a vivid illustration of certain British qualities that were new to me: the embrace of the underdog in any competition, the fetish of (and insistence upon) self-deprecation, the cult of Zelebrity, and the marked distaste toward any perceived effort to win or scheme. It's OK to win, but one mustn't be seen to really try or make too much effort.

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I don't even like Zombie movies but just couldn't pass up the chance to see some of these horrible reality show "stars" get eaten alive..That's just how bad it is.
You aren't missing a thing..

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To OP: Obv troll is obv.

Bruce Willis was a ghost

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I am not a troll, and I had not heard of the real show either. I thought that it was made up for this movie. I am not a big fan of reality shows in general- although I do love Survivor- that is a guilty pleasure of mine. But I can't imagine watching a show of people just doing nothing in a house.

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Same. I'd heard the show referenced before (mostly in British shows) but other than that, I don't know anything about it. Interesting that you think the only possibility is the person is a troll if they haven't seen this ridiculous reality show.

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It was started under the pretence that it was some kind of social experiment, but in reality it became a magnet for simple minded half wits who craved 15 minutes of fame for absolutely zero talent. As much as Dead Set was about a zombie apocalypse, it was also a pretty accurate satire of celebrity culture in the UK.

The bits with the *beep* producer and the stupid ex-contestant are hilarious.

Her: That's a light machine
Him: It's not a "light machine" it's a *beep* lamp!

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