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To all film fans.. please read.


Hmm, I don’t know how to ask all of this without sounding like a troll, but I’m a film student from the uk, and I want to ask the Colin fans what they liked exactly about the film, in some form of detail; if we could get a nice DEBATE going here, then that would be fun. NO TROLLING from either parties, I want full explanations with all opinions, not just “it was moving” or “it was utter *beep*

Ok my views first, I did not enjoy it, at all, (sorry)
I’m a huge zombie genre fan and the DVD was bought for me for Christmas and I had been excited to see it (film student) so I watched it with a fairly biased opinion to start with, (in favour) but when I watched it I was shocked, and appalled to see that this had not only gone to Cannes, to limited cinema release and Dvd, but had average reviews on IMDB, but these boards seemed pretty positive too.

Ok so the first thing I noticed was the Dvd’s cover proudly stating “Colin is the first feature film to be told entirely from a zombie's perspective from the outset.” reading wikipedia will tell you that I, Zombie (1998) is a low budget zombie film that has the main character slowly turning into a zombie throughout the film (so similar but Colin, is still correct with the quote)
Personally, I, zombie’s story sounds on paper, to be more intriguing, having a main character with depth, and emotion that the viewer has time to connect with and sympathise with as he slowly looses control of his body (much like various mental illnesses of real infections).

I have also seen roughly 3 or 4 short films albeit comedy’s about “being a zombie” etc; so while it is the first feature to do so, it is not wholly original; this leads me on to my next point which is the lack of any story, which is as I see it, Colin is bitten by his female friend (possible girlfriend) and is thus turned, he then walks in and out of several mini “dramas” of humans struggling to deal with the apocalypse in individual ways; many of which consist of purely violence, and no character development or dialogue, or anything; they don’t even have names; which is not a narrative movie.
Thus.. Colin as I see it is a short story, linked to other unrelated and un-necessary stories, that each span for about 10 minuets, which in my opinion is 9 minutes too long, Colin is a feature film, running at 94 minutes because as other people say, NOTHING happens, even the shots of Colin walking are too long. The film could be saved (hmmm) by editing it all down. But that would stop it from being a movie, and would be a short story; even half an hour would be good.

Ok so honestly I’m a little tired of typing (and I’m sure you are of reading), now respond about the narrative, and then we shall move onto our next point of focus; acting and directing.

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Ok, so no-one yet has come out saying that they liked colin to me yet, so this is more of a bump than anything else.

on Amazon.co.uk, on the dvd page for Colin, the reviews are, well simply... reviews like this (unedited)

"The director certainly has a future one would hope. And there were a few scenes that Romero would be proud of (the bloke being casually eaten alive by two zombies and then has his ear bitten off by our Colin!). And the scene where the youths are desperately trying to fend off a room FULL of zombies. First class!
If you're a zombie fan, be assured, this film bites!! Buy it now!!!!! "

Now, excuse me for sounding a little cynical, but that is just plain BS.

I hereby call out 90% of the reviews either on IMDB, or Amazon etc, for being FAKE, made up by various members of the crew, with 20% of the votes on here being 10 stars, even though its only 52 people, i still believe it to be more marketing ploy.

I mean fair play, to bump up your own movies, but its based on a complete lie, and stop mentioning Romero (there are better zombie movies out there) especialy than Diary of the Dead. which while similmilar in feel, the aweful Dirary, was miles better.

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Nick

Enjoyed your original post. You have pretty much summed up Colin as I see it, so you are not alone!!

Personally I find it annoying that films like Colin can procure releases on to DVD/Blu-ray etc. because it seems to me anything that is available in the shops will get sales whether it's any good or not. People will just buy it because it's there. This has happened with you (Christmas present), it also happened with my brother (Christmas present). It has probably had countless sales just from being available. Plus there was the whole £45 marketing ploy that got the film in to people's minds and probably (to them) made it seem like a reasonable purchase, if only for curiosity purposes.

What happens then is untalented people like the director of Colin get a good reputation because they make sales. Only he isn't talented, he's making crap and people are buying in to it.

I guess I shouldn't let it frustrate me. After all, each to their own, right?

Sorry, no further comments on the narrative as you've already made the points I was thinking. Can we move on to acting and directing??? :0)

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I wasn't that impressed with it.
The film only came to my attention because of the budget.

To give the film it's dues: It had some nice shots. And I like the tracking shots that were used. And I think it's great that the film got out there.

But to give it some criticism: I thought it was mostly boring. There was not enough going on to justify the 95min running time. I think the story needed some more sub-plots to fill it out and maybe create some dymamics. Some scenes/shots went on far too long; there were many points where I was thinking they could have cut that out or tightend that up a lot.

I doubt we will see more from the director; and if we do, it probably wont be anywhere near the hype that Colin got. But that said, if the director does return with another feature, then I will give it a fair viewing and hope that it's a better film.

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I agree with a lot of what people are saying especially about parts of it being too long.

But I was actually pleasently suprised by it. It is like an idea that was a bit half baked. With the care they put into making zombie makeup I felt they could have put a little more effort into improving the story and adding in a bit more dialouge to fleahing out the story.

Despite that it was good for £45



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Hey, f uckyou, Mr. "film student". Never a Jedi, will you be. You're going to grow up and make "important films" that nobody watches, like Ishtar.

That's the problem with most movies. They're about what the producer thinks people should like and what they think reviewers will like, instead of being creative and make what people actually enjoy watching and tell their friends to go see.

They make "film", but people want to "go to a "movie".

That's why Spielberg never won an Oscar until he did something serious about Nazis, yet his movies are extremely creative and wildly popular.

Only Kubrick could produce a "movie" which is also a "film".

Learn, young Skywalker.
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see, now this is not a debate, this is a ramble...ramble, ramble Spielberg, ramble, ramble Star Wars... lol, ok so your post had nothing to do with anything either about this film, or about my opinions.

sorry, I will get back to this soon, and yes fyi, I am busy, doing my little film thing, but FayeKane; I do know what you are trying to say; if a little, rambled, like a drunk. XD

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Only Kubrick could produce a "movie" which is also a "film".


YOu are 100% wrong. Alfred Hitchcock, Johnathan Demme, Francis Ford Coppola, Clint Eastwood and dozens of others made movies that are exceptionally important, high art and also commercially viable.

You're also a pretentious douche bag.

Joseph Chastainme
www.notwithoutreason.com my film

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Personally, I really liked it.

I didn't care so much for Colin, the character, but saw him more as a Vehicle to show a snapshot of society in the midst of a Zombie outbreak, how different types react to situations that present themselves, or how even in the midst of the chaos others try and exploit the situation.

Well, that's what I got out of it.

The technical flaws were obvious and some of the acting was drivel, not to mention the zombies lacking in Flesh Eating Motivation in some scenes (a fulci Zombie would have had their Intestines out, faster than you could squash an eyeball).

I've gotten tired of Film makers hiding behind low budgets as an excuse for a poor film. For my money, Colin is trying to do something a little out of the ordinary and deserves some, but not necessarily all of, the recognition.

By no means is this a perfect film.
But then again, neither was Within the Woods.

Hey-ho!

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I was actually amazed at what a piece of crap this was. I saw stuff on Sky News ( and other channels) about it and got the impression that it was 'moving' and even heart-breaking at times.

As a short film-maker and subscriber to various film-making e-zines and newletters I get more than my fair share of 'breakthrough' type news on independent filmakers and their projects. I have to admit to being a little envious when I first heard about Colin. Then I bought it in my local supermarket, and was really looking forward to watching it. What a shock! I had to force myself to sit through right to the end, having just paid seven quid for the DVD and because I didn't want to roundly condemn it without having watched it all.

Now the film just makes me angry - at all the people who contributed in deceiving the public about this rubbish movie. They should know better.

I should be grateful really, I nearly paid £20 for two tickets to a special preview screening in Leicester Square, except I left it too late and couldn't get seats ( thank God). Now that really would have pissed me off.

I know we all have personal tastes in movies and not everyone will like the same thing but surely there has to be some standards that any movie must meet to merit attention, regardless of how much or how little it cost to make.

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Colin was certainly not perfect, but yeah I found parts of it heart breaking.

***Spoilers***
The whole section of the movie where his sister is trying to save him. It's agonizing to watch Colin tied up as they try to get some spark of recognition out of him. Then later when the whole family is having an argument and his mother decides to turn her back on him. Plus the ending was very revealing and sad. ***Spoilers***

There's more emotional journey here than say Transformers or any of the Sci-fi original films.

I think maybe it's biggest flaw is that it has a lot of filler. I don't mean all the subplots but the feeding scenes take up too much of the movie, and the music gives me a headache. For the most part I think they were successful in making Colin a sympathetic character, and i certainly felt bad for the character when the human, who I should have been routing for, did something to hurt him.

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as a fan i didnt like it at all it was tastless.

check out my post comparing the latest brit zombie no budget films, i can only recommend zombie diaries and the dead outside really, better than this nothingy film.

dont mean to be cruel but where has the hype come from? they must have little imdb monkeys putting in votes ha ha or is it the 101 student zombies that acted in the film. thats another thing.. the zombies were all under 30!? wonder why.

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Just out of curiosity, was I the only one that noticed colins search for the familiar through-out the movie? In one of the first scenes we see him wandering past a coffee shop with a shamrock logo on it. His girlfriend Laura had an identity card from that shop.
In my opinion, there is a lot of evidence, of some glimmer of intelligence left over in his mind. He seems to be trying to make sense
out of a world he used to belong to.
This is my first post ever on this sort of site, but i felt your posts did this movie injustice. Granted it is a bit lacking in some areas, but saying that there is no storyline to the character Colin seems a bit wrong to me. The coffee shop scene and the scene where he studies the street sign with the arrows on it(there is a duplicate sign in the girlfriend's apartment), in my opinion proves that there is a storyline to the Colin Character.
I just wanted to make sure if you guys noticed that.

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Draconian_Delight, he was looking for his girl the entire movie.

The traffic sign, the coffee shop, following the girl in the same top.

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That whole Zombies retaining certain memories of their past lives is not exactly original.
Several movies including day of the dead feature Zombies doing things such as going to shoppong malls filling cars with gas ect or gointg to places because their memories retain some of the memories from their previous lives.

now a general commentary on the film itself
I am guessing that the main reason this movie got so much praise was because it was done on such a low budget .
For a movie with such a low budget some of the effects/make up were not so terrible.

I guess it was kind of different to tell the movies story (what story there was ) from the Zombies point of view but to some degree that decision didn't help since it meant there was little in the way of dialouge and no real empathy for the character, this movie would have been better if the end scenes with his girl friend had been at the begining of the movie instead .

I guess having a deranged serial killer or whatever that guy with a celler full of Zombie girls was meant to be was kind of different

lots of the plot line like the above was hard to follow or figure out.

And then there were scenes like were the zombies invaded the house which whilst quite well done for a movie on such a low budget didn't make a lot of sense. I don't even think the main zombie character was in that shot.

I guess that was also another problem with this movie too many characters like those in the house and the zombie killers near the end who popped into the movie without there being any real reason to care about them.

the concept behind including the Zombies family (not sure how much detail one can go ito about that without risking a spoiler) was quite good.

there were some good concepts in the movie but the way they were executed meant they didn't end up being that good in the end


the acting (again what there was of it) wasn't that bad I have certaintly seen worse in movies with much higher budgets.

basically this movie had some good concepts some of the effects this movie had were not bad for the minscule budget they had .
But this movie was terribly over hyped and over praised it was far from outstanding even for a movie with such a small budget,
The over hype and over praise didn't exactly help the movie either since it raised peoples expectations far too much


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