Hadley's Hope...Still there?


Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the atmosphere processor go thermonuclear at the end of movie? The colony looks like it's in pretty damn good shape for ground zero of a nuclear explosion. The Derelict, I get, but Hadley's Hope colony on LV-426 would be a crater.

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According to gearbox the explosion went up and not out, stretching it i know but they can fiddle with the workings of a future atmosphere processor eventually overloading for story purposes i suppose

Yeah man, but it's a dry heat!

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When the reactor went kaboom, didn't it also took with it the surrounding atmosphere of the colony? How is that the colony was still a breathable?

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I've said this from the start when they revealed that the game would be set on LV-426, I guess its a case of "the plot of the film doesn't fit with our story so we'll ignore that part".

The finale of Aliens clearly shows a massive thermonuclear explosion as a result of the failure of the cooling system on the atmosphere processor caused by the gunfire during the retreat from the nest and the dropship crash. I think Bishop said it was about 40 megatons (can't quite remember) and later said that "in 26 minutes this area will be a cloud of vapour the size of Nebraska". So if this is a clue to the logic that Gearbox are applying to the game then anything could happen because quite frankly the notion of a nuclear explosion only going upwards is beyond laughable. Other random contradictions could include ignoring the plot from Alien 3 where Hicks died in the escape pod crash on Fury 161.

Its enriely possible that the atmosphere on LV-426 is sufficiently well established to survive the destruction of the AP. Plus, during Ripley's board of enquiry hearing Van Leuwen said "atmosphers processors" when he was talking to Ripley at the end of the scene whic means there could be more than one.

However, I'll still buy the game and play it to death.

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Ignoring the events of A3 wouldnt be a contradiction, it would simply re write the canon.

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To quote Bishop: "this place is going to be a cloud of vapour the size of Nebraska".

or Burke: "this whole installation is basically one big fusion reactor" .. "so, you're talking a thermonuclear explosion and .. 'adios muchachos' ".

Even if we assume that the explosion was "only" as powerful as the Hiroshima bomb (unlikely given the tech involved), Hadley's Hope should be wiped off the face of the planet. The huge explosion shown in the movie supports this conclusion IMO.



S.

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The explosion would destroy pretty much everything ABOVE GROUND as the big Prossesor plant was the part that exploded (the big triangle structure) but as we know from REAL LIFE nuclear explosions is that a blast above ground goes out sideways but mostly up (the fallout from nukes are the worst part)
It's makes sense to think that the structure the colony built to live in was constructed before the processor was finished therefor it would need to withstand anything the hostile environment of the planet can throw at it (for a fact it would be air tight as is was built before oxygen was available on the surface... Most of the base is underground so even though the explosion happened most of the structure (especially underground) would survive.. It's wrecked and in bits in the game showing it was damaged but not destroyed compleatly... Same reason there was buildings that survived the nuke's dropped on Japan and the fact that Chernobyl and even the explosion at the Japanese nuclear plant still leaves the main areas standing.. Wrecked and radioactive but not 'destroyed'
Too many people think stuff like this in real life should be like the films... Only in films do nukes vaporize areas leaving nothing... The game has it's faults but ironically they kinda do this part justice.




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I think Bishop said it was about 40 megatons (can't quite remember)


I actually popped in the DVD again because of this thread (I'll take any excuse to re-watch Aliens ;) ), and he does say just that. He also estimates the blast radius at 30 kilometers. Which kind of contradicts his "Nebraska"-quote, since I'm quite sure that Nebraska is a lot bigger than 30 km across.. ;)

The point is however that the *colony* is a lot smaller than 30 km across. So the whole settlement was well inside the blast radius of a 40 megaton-explosion.

And 40 megatons is one *huge* explosion. Just for comparison: Little Boy (the Hiroshima bomb) had a yield of 16 kilotons. Even a MIRV used on a modern day ICBM "only" has a yield of around 450 kilotons.


S.

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Couldn't Burke have been exaggerating with his "adios muchachos" line? Afterall he wanted a sample of the xenomorph lifeform and there were plenty of them in the colony. It would be in his interest to leave as much of complex intact as possible. Bishop, in his attempt to be human (by exaggerating for effect) may have named Nebraska just to emphasise the force and power of the blast rather than be technically accurate.

If the colony was designed to withstand such a nuclear blast and what we see in the game is mostly subterranean then I think it works...mostly.. as one character says .

If impersonating a Police Officer is an offence, shouldn't actors be imprisoned?

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