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Umh, why is Hercules ...?


... part of the "love" team?

Think Leo is kinda cute but I'm not sure why he's there. And who is Grace's ex? Which god is he? I missed it.

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Yeah it is a bit random! He wasn't exactly known for being romantic or faithful! I'm pretty sure Aphrodite was married to Hephaestos who the was the 'ugly' god of metalwork. It wasn't her choice and she cheated on him heaps, especially with Ares. So it might be Hephaestos but who knows?!

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Yeah, kinda weird. Since Leo's full name is supposedly "Hercules Leonardo Joveson", maybe he's playing her brother, which I suppose Hercules was technically Aprhodite/Venus's brother being Jove/Jupiter/Zeus's son and all. The company needed "muscle" so she asked her brother to join the company?

Well, she was married to Hephaestus, her only husband I think. Though she is described has having cheated often, preferably with Ares and Adonis . And since (I think) she mentioned that they guy she was with in the closet was her son's father, I assume that guy is Ares as he was the father of Eros/Cupid.


Vic Mackey: "God creates all men equal. Out of the womb, he starts playing favorites."

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Ari/Ares is Grace/Aphrodite's current husband and Danny/Eros's father, im assuming Hephaestus is Ray, as they mention he was her first husband

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Ahhhh. Ari is Ares. I couldn't for the life of me think what Ari would have been the replacement name of. Hmmm... Ray as Hephaestus? In mythology, Aphrodite and Hephaestus wasn't much of a love match. She seemed to have preferred Ares over him.

Interesting.

Vic Mackey: "God creates all men equal. Out of the womb, he starts playing favorites."

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Ares was the god of war and this guy didn't seem very war-like -- and Hephestus was said to have been ugly and had a bad, deformed arm -- and he wasn't ugly either. Hm. Interesting.

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It's TV they're not going to make him ugly. They probably wanted someone to counter balance Ares.
Ares is actually pretty war-like in the modern sense. He's involve in the "war business". That's how I imagined Ares to be in modern times. For him to be barbaric or out in the front lines fighting would be beneath him. He's the GOD of war after all. :)
As for Hercules, yeah I thought it was random too but like someone said, he's probably just the muscle but it adds to the show though, otherwise Eros would be the only male character that shows up in every episode.
I'm iffy on his face but the guy looks like he has the body of a Greek god underneath all that clothes.

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Hercules is the only one who seems completely out of place
and is probably the least engaging character so far

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I accidently caught this show tonight and on the 2nd episode I watched tonight which is I think the 4th in the listing I saw the characters Hephestus and Ares and Hephestus seems the most likeable between the two. Ares is very arrogant. Im thinking the goddess of love fell for him and cheated on her husband Hephaestus with that guy and had her son Eros. I dont get why she would choose that arrogant one to have an affair with over her husband. He even claims in this episode that Ares doesnt know or understand the meaning behind what Aprodite does and he seems to have gotten past things and grown Where Ares has not. But I guess in real live the woman goes for the bad one instead of the decent one. That is what they tried to portray in the 1st pilot episode but they got the girl with the good one in the end.

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Depending on the versions of the myth, Aphrodite can actually be the aunt of Zeus. In Hesiod, she was born when Kronus, Zeus's father, severed his father, Ouranos's genitalia and it fell to the earth, creating a foam in the sea from which Aphrodite was born. In fact, aphros means foam. However, this tradition has an archaic root, and it is in Homer that we see her as the daughter of Zeus by Dione. Yet, this lineage from Zeus also makes Aphrodite Ares's half sister since Ares is the son of Zeus and Hera. But then again, the Greek gods never were too concerned with incest, being that Zeus and Hera are brother and sister to begin with. In addition, Hephaistos and Ares are half siblings being that Hera births Hephaistos in retaliation for Zeus's birthing of Athena from his forehead. But it looks as though the show isn't going along with much of the actual mythology since to start out with, Hephaistos is depicted as good looking and not lame or unattractive. Coming back around to Herakles, there is a question as to why he is even working in the love department, being that he was known as the gruff and brawny hero that was so rough around the edges that Athens actually abandoned the hero who was so popular in contemporary representations in art, etc., adopting the more refined Theseus as their local heroic mascot. Herakles is hardly known for having a soft spot for love and affection. In addition, as the son of Zeus and the mortal Alkmene, Herakles was not entirely immortal, and it is disputed in ancient myth and literature as to whether or not Herakles became a god at the end of his life. Not to mention, that Aphrodite was in fact the goddess of sexual love, and not the love that we think of while watching the show. Hera was more in the business of marriage, and Aphrodite might be considered in simple terms as the goddess of pleasure and sexual love. Oh well, I still enjoy the show, and put my Classics degree on the shelf while watching.

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Just think of him as the "Love Muscle".

It's a fun show, and reminds me of TV from the '60's (Addams Family, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeannie, etc.). So, obviously, it's livin' on borrowed time. Especially on a suckball network like the cw -- doesn't deserve capital letters.

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It was Hephaestus the "handy man",Ares is the debonair shorter man played by Greg Ellis.

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Generally I think he was just muscle,but if I remember right Hercules was also a bit of a love-machine in the myths(though not the sweet,and silent guy he is in the show,but I guess centuries of greif will do that to a guy),and the way they went about things it seems that Grace/Aphrodite took Hercules in either before or after the 12 labors,when he was a complete wreck.

I do wish we could have at least gotten a shirtless shot of Robert Baker,that man looks like he is in Greek god worthy shape;)

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Hercules/Leo was a good natured god whos main purpose on the show was to protect Aphrodite/Grace and her son Eros/Danny. Grace took him in at some point after he had lost everything and he has sworn to protect her. Also I believe he has a bit of a crush on Phoibe/Phoebe, the seer who reads the oracle.
In the show Grace claims that Hephaestus/Ray tried to impress Grace by building her a house that she loved and married him because of and when Aries/Ari who is Rays younger brother found out he burned it to the ground. Grace had said that she had found it charming and ran off and married him.
P.S Ray is the god of fire, aka he is an engineer, he can build anything


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