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Plot hole I just can't get over (spoilers)


After Madsen gets all gun-happy and Busey drops off the money, Madsen decides he wants to know who Smith is. He concludes that it has to be someone in the diner.

Why?

One character brought up a very good point: Smith might never have shown up. Busey doesn't know what he looks like, and Madsen didn't even know he existed until seconds ago.

Madsen's excuse is "No one just leaves a bag of money like that sitting there." Uh... what? Why not? Busey was obviously nervous about the shotgun and he figured his business was done.

So why did Smith HAVE to be in the diner?

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Why would it matter to Madsen if he found Smith? Madsen had no part in any of it anyways.

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It made perfect sense. Green tells him that Smith was paid to kill someone and that the plan was to accept payment at the diner after the job was done. So, logically, when Green comes in to pay, one would assume that Smith is there to accept his payment. And Madsen's right, nobody's going to leave that kind of money behind. Logic dictates that Smith is, indeed, in the diner waiting for his money, which he was.

Sometimes I could kiss your mind, Roy.

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Yeah, but then how can he be sure that Smith wasn't one of the people he had already killed? (The owner/chef, or the deputy?)

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He can't, not really. But, logically, the hired killer isn't going to be someone from the area. It's going to be someone traveling through. He can (well, theoretically, anyway) rule out the chef/owner and the deputy based on WHO they are, just like he can be reasonably sure that the other deputy is also not Smith. Of course, we're not entirely sure as to Madsen's character's mental stability, either.

Sometimes I could kiss your mind, Roy.

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I forgot to thank you for answering this stuff for me. Thumbs up, and thanks for your time : )

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It is a pretty big plot hole. We know the hitman was meeting Mr. Green there to get paid, but that doesn't mean he was going to get there first. He could have been on his way there, delayed making sure he evaded capture (dumping the car, taking back roads etc). He might have been parked down the street waiting for the cop car to leave the parking lot. He might have noticed something weird with the diner-- you know the closed sign but all the lights inside on and 8 cars in the parking lot. Hell walking up to the door a trained hitman would probably sense something amiss and either bail thinking he can get paid later or just wait outside to see what is up.

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I got the feeling Madsen's character was thinking, "Worst case scenario: I kill a bunch of innocent people for nothing. Sucks for them."

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My God. Do people even know what a plot hole is anymore? Doe (Madsen's character) wants to know who Smith is because he realizes that Smith is his biggest obstacle. As for know leaves that much money just sitting there, they don't. Who would do a job like that and not get paid?

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My God. Do people even know what a plot hole is anymore? Doe (Madsen's character) wants to know who Smith is because he realizes that Smith is his biggest obstacle. As for know leaves that much money just sitting there, they don't. Who would do a job like that and not get paid?


So why not just kill everybody in the diner and scram? He already figured one of them was Smith, and was gonna kill them all anyway so that there would be no witnesses. Which one of the dead bodies was "Smith" would really be a moot point if he just killed them and left.

..or maybe not lol http://www.WackyWarfare.com

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I thought the bigger plothole was over the explanation about the land. They had 200 acres, and they couldn't find a place to put the parking lot that didn't hinge on buying some reluctant farmer's property? To put this in perspective, Mall of America, which has over 500 stores, is less than 100 acres.

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