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Saddam had less screen presence than his son.....


Really???? Come on. The actor playing Saddam should have owned it everytime he was on camera, but he was overshadowed by the actor who played his son.....like REALLY overshadowed.....pathetic casting.

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DIsagree totally. Every time Saddam came on screen the film got serious. Everyone there knew that saddam was akin to their god. I felt nervous for everyone when saddam was around.

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Nah; you instantly knew Saddam was more important for three reasons:

a) he was older
b) who he was (you don't need to have seen the film to know about the import Saddam had at the time, in the middle east.)
c) the thickness of his moustache (I'm serious... look up the importance of the moustache in the Arab world... )

Besides, in the film, you only need to see the scene where Uday is in a hospital bed, to be able to fully comprehend the significance...






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You are mistaking the real world for the fictional world.....screen presence has to do with the actors natural gifts and abilities, of which this actor lacked. It was a bad job casting.

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I'm not mistaking anything... This is Uday's film, so no wonder his father was in the shadows; he's effectively a minor character because the narrative chooses to tell the story from Uday and his double's perspective...

If you want a film about Saddam, then make one... but this was never intended to be so, in the first place.






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your still confusing reality and make believe.......I'm talking about the actors presence, not the character.....two very different things.

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You don't need an actor of strong presence to play such a relatively minor role in the context of the film... In point of fact, it would be damaging to the story to have a supporting actor more charismatic than the lead one(s).






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At least no we are talking about the same thing......NOW, this is where we disagree, even though it is Uday's movie, Saddam DOES need to have more screen presence, because of who he is in a historical sense, this is the reason I believe it is bad casting

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We always were talking about the same thing; the two are interlinked.

You can't separate fiction and reality when it's a retelling like this; there is always a blend, somewhere, depending on the angle the story takes... The audience mostly brings with them into the theatre the knowledge of how powerful Saddam was, (as I've already mentioned) and just in case it does need reinforcing, there is always the hospital scene (again, as I mentioned) which the actor does a perfectly adequate job in... Any more than that, and Saddam begins to overshadow the journey of his son.

We aren't living in a vacuum where nobody knows about Saddam, and we need a movie to explicitly emphasise how evil he was... Just little hints are enough, in this case.






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Never mind, we are not on the same page......and I'm done trying to get us both there.

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I understand what you mean; we just disagree... This happens. People can get each other's point of view without agreeing with one another. I don't think it's charitable for you to suggest that you're doing all of the work! If you were that convinced by your own point of view, perhaps you should be able to communicate it more effectively.






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I gotta side with the other guy here even though Howlin WOlf is one of my favourote artists:)

I think in many films a bit character steals the scene, often the only one he's ion and stays extremely memorable. Alec Baldwin for example in Glengary Glenn Ross and many other examples of that in Lynch movies etc. It';s ok to disagree of course, bu I agree with the OP that the actor playing Saddam just lacked gravitas and would have been nice to see someone else play him.

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To me it seems Howlin Wolf just owned you. His points are good and he squashed your position. Be a man and accept it, not trying to deny it by blethering nonsense.

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This wasn't Saddams movie...

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what do you expect! it's cia propaganda movie

i mostly will not be able to answer your reply, since marissa mayer hacked my email, no notification

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The movie was about the son and his double though so if they are overshadowed in the movie they are doing something wrong

The plan is you drink a nice tall glass of shut the *beep* up.

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