MovieChat Forums > Nowhere Boy (2009) Discussion > One thing that really really riled me!

One thing that really really riled me!


Why oh why did they not make Aaron Johnson wear brown contact lenses? Lennon did not have blue eyes!

To be honest it really spoiled the film for me that the actors looked nothing like Lennon/McCartney/Harrison!!

Backbeat was a fantastic example of how to do it properly!

Also - Aaron Johnson was too handsome, tall and physically strong to play Lennon...I was not convinced by Johnson's performance at all...

And don't get me started on the kid who played McCartney!!!

reply

lol. The eye color discrepancy didn't bother me. Actors often don't resemble exactly their real life counterparts,Joaquin Phoenix as Johnny Cash is a more recent example of this who is about seven inches shorter than Cash. If we're eye picking the guy who plays George in Backbeat has blue eyes when the real George has brown,not to mention being about thirty when he made the film. I never noticed Johnson seeming too tall to play Lennon, as a matter of fact i think both Lennon and Johnson were/are 5'11. But yes, Johnson is far more pretty than Lennon, but i didn't think it mattered. I thought his performance was spot on. What the actors didn't match up in looks i thought they made up in spirit, but i agree that they probably could have gotton a better McCartney!

http://rantsreviews4filmnuts.blogspot.com/

reply

Phanton fan... Interesting you make the Joaquin Phoenix and Johnny Cash comparison, which to me there is a resemblance between them, regardless of height, where, I see none whatsoever with Johnson and Lennon. Agree, that it does not need be an exact look, but it helps if there is some kind of resemblance! I have not yet seem the movie, so can not comment on his acting, but hope you are right on your assessment.

"If we are always guided by other peoples thoughts, whats the point of having our own?"

reply

Posted this elsewhere as its own thread but deleted it, as it probably works better in this one

I enjoyed the movie, and thought Aaron Johnson (as well as everyone else) did a great job -- especially in aging his character from 15 to 17 or 18. But like other posters, I thought he was too good-looking to play Lennon, and didn't look like him enough (though I know director Sam Taylor-Wood cast actors who could inhabit the role, not ones that resembled whom they were playing). However, later in the film, when Lennon was older -- when he became more wild and rebellious, and wore more "rocker"-typle clothes and styled his hair different -- I could certainly see more of a resemblance then.

One minor quibble, though (much in the spirit of "Why didn't they give him brown contact lenses?"): Why didn't they give him a prostethic nose? The fact that he didn't have the classic Lennon nose bothered me everytime I looked at him, creating distance between Aaron Johnson the actor, and John Lennon the character he was playing.

Virginia Woolf's facial features were probably less well-known to the general public than John Lennon's, and yet Nicole Kidman was given quite a schnoz in "The Hours."

reply

Hey! In hindsight it was a good acting performance so I take those words back...

However to call me an 'idiot' is quite harsh...Surely it wouldn't have been hard to get brown contact lenses?! I think the director only cast him because she fancied him...

reply

i have to agree james, the idiot comment is harsh and unfair,

it really annoyed me too! the voice sometimes sounded spot on sure, but its very distracting when you see someone acting a charecter who we al know so well.

and wtf was with the paul charecter? jeesh!

loved the film overal though, thought anne marie duff was brill as usual and so great to see her doing well from shameless! WHOOP WHOOP MANCHESTER TALENT!


LOL



prick love for pricking

reply

I reserved my judgements after seeing the cast line up from the publicity shots and ye i really thought i'd hate much of the casting especially mcartney, but for some reason the characters just seem to ooze out of them. I soon realised actually it's all in the acting and i think the whole cast did brilliantly. and i genuinely believed what i saw and felt each actor was the character they were supposed to be.

Alcohol and leprosy are Very similar, too much of either and you'll end up legless

reply

Johnson as Lennon just didn't ring true for me, although in a weird meta-casting way I think the man himself would have loved the badass outsider portayal that fits the myth Lennon built around himself. Sangster, on the other hand, was spot-on as McCartney - hardly a lookalike, but he really nailed the preternatural musicianship and lack of concern for image. As we all know, Paul was really the musically gifted one; John's talent was for self-promotion.

Of course, this film is just a straightforward family melodrama dressed in art-film clothes anyway and has had a bizarrely rapturous critical reception. The fact that Kristen Scott Thomas is, to paraphrase Nicholas Soames, a tall poppy amid a wheatfield of mediocrity in this film should have made this clear. But whatever.

reply

"As we all know, Paul was really the musically gifted one; John's talent was for self-promotion. "

Paul was really the musically gifted one? I would say that's highly debatable. George was the only true musician where Paul and John, together, were equally amazing artists, in my opinion.


Kill whoever stands in thy way... even if that be Lord God, or Buddha himself.

reply

[deleted]

How many male directors cast younger actresses becase they fancy them? Think the casting couch applies here. Anyway, Johnson was getting into character. How older was Yoko compared to John?

reply

I know, really none of them look like the Beatles. :(

But, Thomas Sangster (thats the ''kid'' who played Paul McCartney) is HOT! :P

------------------------
*Don't wake me...I'm dreaming about Thomas Sangster*

reply

I read somewhere that Sam Taylor-Wood decided the cast upon how well they embodied the characters, not how much they looked like them. I haven't seen it yet so I've no idea whether it worked or not, but it makes sense.

reply

I think there may be some validity to that theory. I thought Aaron Johnson caught the contradiction behind Lennon well (confidence & insecurity), the actors capturing the personality rather than an impression.

Papaghede said:

"Sangster, on the other hand, was spot-on as McCartney - hardly a lookalike, but he really nailed the preternatural musicianship and lack of concern for image. As we all know, Paul was really the musically gifted one; John's talent was for self-promotion"

Interesting, but I viewed the distinction somewhat differently (just my own subjective p.o.v). McCartney definitely comes across as the more technically accompliced musician, even gaining admiration from Julia which irks an insecure John. (I didn't realise he was left-handed - and also lost his mother as a teenager, only learning this after I accessed wikipedia upon seeing the film. McCartney's father also passed on an interest in music).

But there is a distinction between the two young men, in my interpretation, that Lennon is the more emotionally authentic & passionate, his rage/anger, rebelliousness and attitude (outburst of violence). Young McCartney is more self-contained/controlled despite also suffering a family tragedy. There is an edginess to Lennon that found self-expression in his solo work. You could argue that many of the most famous Beatles songs were written in the main by Paul McCartney (Yesterday, Hey Jude), but that the member whose solo work is best remembered is Lennon. Lennon comes across as more of an individual (emotional), McCartney a member of a group/gifted musician experimenting with music as a form (borrowing from the classics).

reply

That was beautifully put nqure. I'm just heading off to the movie now, so I don't have an opinion yet. It's interesting, in interviews I really don't like the actor who plays Lennon, but in the trailers for Nowhere Boy and even Kick Ass, he looks like a pretty good actor. We shall see, I suppose!

reply

Paul always was a superior guitarist to Lennon. That made John very insecure about inviting him into the Quarrymen. Then, along came George, who was even better

reply

[deleted]

Paul is left handed. He plays guitar and bass left handed. He recently taught himself mandolin when he was given a left handed mandolin, and that's what he plays on the song "Dance Tonight" from a couple of years ago. Obviously there is no "handedness" when you play the piano or drums.
Ringo is also left-handed, but it's not obvious because a drummer has to show strong ambidexterity. It does partially account for the uniqueness of his fills in many of the Beatles' songs.

reply

"Obviously there is no "handedness" when you play the piano or drums."
Eh, not sure if this is really relevant to this discussion forum, but yeah there is handedness to drums. Left handed players usually have the kit reversed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDT4rlZ4z54&feature=related). A left handed player on a right handed kit set up would play open arm rather than cross arm.

'Sure we're speaking Jebediah, you're fired'

reply

I thought Johnson bore a greater resemblance to the real Lennon than the actors playing Harrison and McCartney. Which is to say - neither of them bore any resemblance at all. In fact, what riled me alot more, was that the actor playing George neither looked like him nor acted like him - he's shown acting cool and confident when in real life George was shy.

I know that this was a John Lennon biopic, and not so much a 'how the Beatles met' movie, but that was what irked me. I actually thought Johnson did quite a decent job. The speech at his birthday party, in particular, really captured John's scathing wit.


Life is just that thing between naps

reply

[deleted]

[deleted]

I just saw the film, I have a few questions but will start on one- if McCartney was a bit irresponsible and not the wise and mentoring kid in the movie, why did they change the character's personality? Was it for the story telling?

reply

I think he was both. He was a teenager. I don't know why he was portrayed as a goody two-shoes, because he wasn't. He was already a good guitarist, much better than John, and did teach him how to play. But I don't think Paul and John were very different in the kinds of things they did with their time.

reply

Someone has said in this thread that John Lennon was a skinny not athletic teenager - wrong! he was athletic at that age and it is by far thye best performance and character portrayal of john to date.
John was attractive and he had the mannerisms to a t. John was tall too. But it was the looks on the face that made it all so convincing. I am fed up with people thinking that to portray lennon all you need is a big nose , round glasses and an angry sneer. This was brilliant- all the actors were. Fantastic film.

reply

THANK YOU! That was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the trailer. As an avid Beatles fan, I distinctly remember that John had dark brown eyes while Ringo was the only Beatle with blue eyes (and beautiful ones at that!). (In fact, they pointed that out in the voice over for the "Help!" movie.)

I seriously don't think brown contacts would've been that much of a problem. Heck, if Aiden Quinn could wear brown contacts for his portrayal as Paul McCartney for VH1's "Two of Us", Mr. Johnson could've done it as well.

But, I guess we're making a mountain out of a molehill. Hopefully, it'll still be good. But if you ask me, the actor they chose for the "made for TV" they did awhile back based on Lennon's early days looked a heck of a lot more like Lennon.

reply

I just watched it and I thought it was amazing!!!! The eye-color thing didn't really bother me. I actually wouldn't have noticed it if I hadn't read this board beforehand. And for the record, Aaron Johnson has really nice eyes. :P

I have to say that I think Johnson was really good in his portrayal of Lennon. At certain times, I actually believed he was him! Disregarding physical attributes (which weren't too much unlike John) I think Aaron Johnson captured John's complicated personality perfectly. As for McCartney.... he was all right and mostly believable. I feel like I didn't see enough of George to get a full opinion but he was okay.

Overall, I really enjoyed this movie and I can say that it gave me a little more insight on John.

R.Phoenix J.Lennon B.Renfro H.Ledger
The Beatles = Life


reply

Totally agree with OP. Having a very pretty curly haired kid with biceps and large blue eyes play the skinny straight haired brown eyed JL ... considering how easily remedied the eye color thing is (how expensive are brown contact lenses???) ... I found this one thing continually distracting and it was one of the things that added to the sense that this kid was not JL. I constantly had to remind myself that this was a movie about JL.


reply

john had wavy hair and was not a skinny teenager

reply

Jameswin50, Agree, I have yet to see the movie, but the moment I saw Aaron Johnson, I thought the same, he looks nothing like John Lennon! I hope that his acting is good enough not to ruin it for me too!

"If we are always guided by other peoples thoughts, whats the point of having our own?"

reply