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Not realistic about female body hair


An unfortunate lapse of realism in this mostly excellent film is that in those scenes--taking place in the sixties--in which the character Ada and various female bathhouse patrons are shown full-frontally nude, they invariably appear to have trimmed or completely shaven pubic hair, as well as completely shaven armpit hair.

Unless I'm very much mistaken, that's quite unrealistic for Eastern Europe at that time. It's my understanding that, up until the eighties and nineties, most Eastern European cultures were holdouts against the spread of the horrible twentieth-century (and now twenty-first-century) trend of mostly or completely eliminating female body hair.

I would hope that director Javor Gardev, who was born in 1972, is not so ignorant of his country's (Bulgaria's) recent cultural history that he actually believes women were shaving themselves in that way in the mid sixties. More likely, the creators of the film failed to plan ahead and get actress Tanya Ilieva and the various bathhouse extras to start growing out their pubic hair and underarm hair several months in advance; with the result that, when shooting time came, it was too late to do anything, short of resorting to expensive expedients such as adding real or CGI merkins. They probably hoped that not many people in the audience would notice or care. In committing this failure of advance planning, the film's creators compare unfavorably with director Ang Lee, who did make sure that female actresses and extras appearing nude in Taking Woodstock (2009) were realistically endowed with the full pubic hair, and in many cases armpit hair as well, characteristic of that film's 1969 time period.

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All they needed was a merkin - that's like a wig for the pubic area.

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Yes, I know about merkins: I mentioned them in my post (last revised November 14th). If you'll look at the third paragraph, you'll see that I raised the possibility that in theory the filmmakers could've added "real or CGI merkins" to the extras, but that it might've been too great an expense for the production to afford.

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Kubrick named the U.S. prez "Merkin Muffley" in 'Dr. Strangelove'. A double-whammy pun of sorts. Isn't "muff" '60's-hippyish jargon for pudenda, quim, bush, etc., etc.?

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ahall-3: You're right that "muff" is a slang term for female pubic hair, and therefore also, by metonymy, for the vulva or vagina; but it's a term that goes back a lot farther than the 1960's. The online Oxford English Dictionary currently has examples of the use of that slang term from 1699, ca. 1700, 1707, ca. 1795, and 1934, as well as examples of "muff-dive" from 1941, 1948, and 1958, "muff-diver" from 1930 and ca. 1936, and "muff-diving" from 1941.

Incidentally, when you wrote "pudenda, quim, bush, etc., etc.", I think you meant "pudendum". "Pudendum" is the singular, "pudenda" is the plural.

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I fully agree with you. This was a really sloppy oversight by the director, and detracts from the film. I can never understand how this happens. A small battalion of people work on a film. You would think that SOMEONE would have picked up on this. I also find a similar kind of sloppiness in a surprising number of English-language films (usually from Hollywood), where a film might be set in the 1950s or 1960s, and the filmmakers use language and slang that were unknown in the 1950s-'60s.

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IMHO, the goals of the nudity in the film are sexual and erotic. Therefore, it's appropriate to "rouse" the audience in a manner that achieves those goals--i.e.> playing to current sexual/erotic conventions.

If he played to historical accuracy, we'd be watching a National Geographic special...which is far from illustrating the lure of females.

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I noticed the lack of female body hair only because I had just finished watching 'The American Friend' (Germany/1977) and one of the actresses had mounds of hair under her arm that looked like shrubs. I think in 'Zift', the actresses actually wore skin tone G-strings.

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Of all the things this is what you were really bothered by?

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I'm not saying this is the one thing above all others that I was really bothered by. There were probably other things that were significantly bothersome to me in Zift, although since it's now been more than seven years since I saw the film I wouldn't remember what they were. The female body hair issue is just an issue that I chose to discuss in this particular thread.

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