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Ending is the opposite of what I'd prefer.

posted 9 years ago by lazur-2
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Everyone feels bad that they may have caused Kyle's "suicide". That's the only reason they're pretending he was a great guy. LET THEM FEEL BAD. A kid like this might well have truly killed himself, & they WOULD be at fault. Instead, Lance let everyone off the hook. For what? So that HE could feel like a "great guy", which is essentially why he faked the suicide in the first place. I see no evolution in Lance.

[–] UndiesStyle 9 years ago

I feel he faked Kyle's suicide because he just didn't want anyone to find out how Kyle really died and he felt a suicide was more dignified than the accidental death. He didn't mean for anyone outside the police to read the note. Once it got out, he had to keep up with the scam of Kyle being a great writer so that they wouldn't suspect the real cause of death. He also liked that they were finally acknowledging his writing skills, but he didn't plan for that to happen when he wrote the note.

He couldn't live with the lie anymore, told everyone the truth, and now the pressure of keeping the scam going is gone.

[–] doggie_rodriguez 9 years ago

You got it exactly. I don't think the OP was very invested in the film while he was "watching" it.

[–] joolztoolz 8 years ago

I disagree here and think you and doggie have it all wrong.

I feel he faked Kyle's suicide because he just didn't want anyone to find out how Kyle really died and he felt a suicide was more dignified than the accidental death.

This is the plot of the movie. Congratulations for watching it but no points for telling us all about it since we all saw it. It's like having someone explain Toy Story to us by informing us all it's an animated movie. About toys.

The rest after that I didn't see it the same way. Of course he wanted to cover up the manner of death but the little bits of the note that we hear sound like they are written from his point of view. His experiences with the world. When he faked the note, he wrote from his own perspective.

Then, as he walks through the nightmarish landscape of the after effects, and decides to fake the journal, I think he does it for his own selfish reasons. He never got published, and it's a way for him to capitalize on his newfound popularity. Maybe a bit of that and a bit of getting back at these people or putting one over on them. Again, the little we hear from the journal seems to be from his own perceptions...he gets to rant a bit and has a ready made audience.

The absurdity of it isn't lost on him when he goes on television and his laughter is mistaken for crying.

It wasn't that he couldn't live with the lie anymore. It was that he wanted to give everyone a big FU. He even says it...his biggest fear was being around people who made him feel alone. He knew all along what his son was and wanted to show everyone who pretended to care or who might have fooled themselves into caring how superficial they were.

And I disagree with doggie there and wonder how many of the people in this thread claiming the OP didn't "watch" the movie or understand it also realize they don't get the point either--that is that people can be cruel and self-serving and by throwing your petty insults around about whether someone was "watching" the movie or has understood it at all...you just put yourself in with that little crowd of nitwits.

Your "intellect"...if I might borrow your tactics, isn't impressing any of us.

[–] baileythedog 9 years ago

I don't think you really understood what this movie was trying to say.

[–] doggie_rodriguez 9 years ago

I think the OP was doing other things while this movie was playing in the background.

[–] baileythedog 9 years ago

I think the OP was doing other things while this movie was playing in the background.

Yes, it's bizarre to me how many people simply cannot grasp the meaning within the film medium they are watching.

[–] doggie_rodriguez 9 years ago

Sometimes I think people spend more time thinking about what clever thing they are going to say next instead of listening.

[–] baileythedog 9 years ago

Sometimes I think people spend more time thinking about what clever thing they are going to say next instead of listening.

Indeed.

Speaking of people that don't know what they're talking about, your favorite poster and mine has somehow deliriously managed to confuse us again. (At least I THINK she's referring to you.)

Long thread, but let's say it involves the current tragedy of Bruce Willis's cinematic output and a bizarre insistence that IMDb's "Starmeter" plays some profound effect in Hollywood.

You might enjoy as you do get somewhat referenced. I think.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000246/board/thread/248430528?p=1

[–] doggie_rodriguez 9 years ago

Everyone feels bad that they may have caused Kyle's "suicide". That's the only reason they're pretending he was a great guy. LET THEM FEEL BAD.

There was no suicide. Therefore no reason for these people to feel horrible.

A kid like this might well have truly killed himself, & they WOULD be at fault.

Except that's not what happened. So there is no "fault" here.

Instead, Lance let everyone off the hook.

Off the hook from the suicide that didn't happen?

For what? So that HE could feel like a "great guy"

No, b/c he didn't want the son to be remembered in an embarrassing way.

My question to you is.......what were you doing while this movie played in the background? B/c you clearly weren't paying attention.

[–] nhnolan 8 years ago

Kyle was a horrible human being. They wouldn't be at fault at all if he killed himself. It wasn't like he was bullied. The kid was a weird sex freak who said horrible things about his classmates for no reason.