first heardt he news?
not making light at all, just htat was the first thing I thought of...and how weird that he did a movie about it a few years earlier.
the second thing i thought when I heard was "I hope it's not like David Carradine"
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just htat was the first thing I thought of...and how weird that he did a movie about it a few years earlier.
Right it's completely implausible that he was in a movie that involved a suicide by hanging and his reaction to his sons death was moviing so he knew how devasting suicide is for a loved one.
Yeah only an idiot would make a connection and observation on these obviously completely unrelated events
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I'm a little confused by your post.
The title of this thread refers to the death in the film, which was by auto-erotic asphyxiation. If that is the case, then I not only stand by my comment, but I will add "yes, it's completely idiotic to think he died of masturbating after being diagnosed with Parkinsons & his long history of depression."
In your second post, you seem to just mean suicide.
If that's what you meant, then yes, I agree with you. But hopefully you can see where the confusion came from.
I said "initially". Before any facts where known except he died from hanging.
That he was in a movie dealing with that very subject warrants more than a passing nod.
While we did not know about the Parkinson's until after his death, we did know about the depression and history of alcohol and drug abuse as it's been well documented since the 1980s.
When I hear about a guy hanging in a closet that has a history of depression & drug abuse, my first thought is not that he was "masturbating dangerously".
Well that's the first thing I think of. Hanging is not an easy way to go out. If I was gonna end it is pick a method more certain and less painful.
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Yeah I don't believe that it was suicide.
I think he was probably experimenting with this after he did the movie because he was probably turned on by it.
The wife probably cut his wrist, and set it up to look like a suicide so he wouldn't go down as having died from such a humiliating way.
So the first thing you think of whenever someone is hanging in a closet (with a history of drug abuse and depression) is that they were jacking off?
shareI'm seeing this movie for the first and I was a little shocked by the way Kyle died in this movie, it's the same way they described Robin Williams' death on the news. Makes you think that there might be a cover up and maybe he was "experimenting", if you know what I mean...
shareMakes you think that there might be a cover up and maybe he was "experimenting", if you know what I mean...
I beg to differ. The facts as we know them is that he was found seated in a chair, slightly elevated, one end of a belt around his neck and the other trapped in the closet, and he was found partially clothed (later changed to "clothed") with superficial cuts to his wrists with a closed pocket knife on a stand beside him. Why would they feel the need to specify that he was found "clothed"? I could understand if he was, say, Swedish, but isn't clothed basically the default condition for the sexually repressed US? There's no need to comment on it at all.
Second, if he wanted to commit suicide, why only superficial cuts on his wrist? Why not make the cuts deep enough that he'd bleed out or plunge the knife into his heart? Why wouldn't he find some way to hang himself from the ceiling, or at least from the crossbeam in the closet, where he'd have gravity working for him instead of a chair working against him? I'm sorry, but given the facts that have been presented, AEA definitely sounds like the most plausible explanation for his death. As for the superficial cuts, they could have been made to heighten the adrenaline rush instead of being an attempt to cause permanent harm.
I'm with you on this, the evidence and logic you've presented is very hard to argue with. AEA was not my first thought, but after watching this movie again seeing how Kyle's character's death mirrored RW's, I'm beginning to think there is no other explanation as to what most likely happened that morning. I first saw this movie a few years back as an impressionable teen at the time and had no idea that he was suffering so much. Trying something like AEA would be an extreme example of the lack of impulse control he had.
shareI'm with you on this, the evidence and logic you've presented is very hard to argue with.
I'm beginning to think there is no other explanation as to what most likely happened that morning.
I beg to differ. The facts as we know them is that....
There's no need to comment on it at all.
I just saw this movie for the first time and yes, Robin Williams' own suicide was the first thing that entered my mind when Lance found Kyle dead in his chair with a tie around his neck. A chill went up my spine watching that scene. Williams' reaction was so perfect and deep...that silent, anguished scream, sinking to the floor and curling up in the fetal position...just an amazing performance by an actor reaching into his own darkness and later, recalling that artistic moment into his own story to end his life. It makes perfect, tragic sense.
sharerecalling that artistic moment into his own story to end his life. It makes perfect, tragic sense.
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