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The truth behind 'Frozen Flesh' (the joke's on you)


So, I've been reading all of your postings and have responded to many of them in the exact same way: that of a clueless, self-promoting hack director completely unaware of his creative shortcomings.

An egotistical, talentless "artist" who fails to see that his own film is literally the worst film ever made.

Most of you have attacked me both creatively and personally. Some of you have been downright cruel and vicious. And others (you know who you are) have turned the tables and shown who you really are: clueless, self-promoting hacks who think that living in L.A. constitutes being "in the business" (guess what? it doesn't).

Very few of you have actually responded positively. Those who have have offered words of encouragement

So, now the truth will be revealed.

"Frozen Flesh" is a prank.

(FYI - so is "Evil Spirits")

A joke designed to bring out the best (and the worst) in vicious audiences who will spit and hurl personal insults at artists who want nothing more than to have themselves heard creatively.

Pretentious jerks who will do anything and everything to make themselves feel superior.

So, I made "Frozen Flesh" as an act of vigilance for all filmmakers out there who dedicate their heart & soul to their films, only to have them torn apart. It's one thing to attack a film. It's another to attack a fellow human being just because he expressed his creativity.

Much has been made about the 7 static images stretched out into two hours, including over 70 minutes of so-called "air stabbing" and watching water go from still to boiling - in its entirety.

It took me about an hour one Saturday morning to come up with the entire film, from start to finish. I had about 10 minutes of footage that I slowed down and looped. And the "worst soundtrack ever" was purposely made that way. The red tint was meant to just add to the irritating, incompetent nature of the entire film.

And the clueless director who thinks his film is the best ever was nothing more than icing on the cake.

For those of you who think that I'm just trying to recover from my destroyed reputation, think about it.

Would anyone actually think this is the greatest film ever (as I clearly stated in my self-published review of the film)?

Would a director be clueless enough to actually post his own review on the DVD cover?

Did you notice how no one (not in "Frozen Flesh" or "Evil Spirits") ever shows his/her face?

So, while many of you thought that my true colors were being revealed by my being exposed as a talentless hack who will never make it in Hollywood, it is in fact you that is exposed!

I enjoyed laughing at all of the posts. You laughed at my expense, not realizing that the entire time I was laughing at your expense and making fun of all of you.

A few got the joke right away and I had to say you were wrong, that it wasn't a joke, just to keep the illusion going as long as possible.

And a lot of you just thought it was simply a terrible film (which it definitely is!) and shrugged it off as that. All of you should have said it was a terrible movie because there's nothing redeeming about it whatsoever.

Many of you really stood up for me and while you probably feel deceived (as you should), just know that there are young filmmakers out there who need encouragement and would really cherish the kind of support you gave me. I apologize for the deception.

However...

I have a message to those who took it so seriously and were so offended by the film and by me that they felt the need to bring themselves up by not only attacking me, but also by talking about how a real movie is made.

Please. Give me a break.

The joke's on you.

Justin French
Creator of "Frozen Flesh" and "Evil Spirits"

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I wasn't directing anything at you personally, I was just making an observation based on my experiences the past couple of weeks on these boards.

Yes, I am actually a filmmaker. Not an aspiring one, but a couple of my films have actually played in theaters. If you actually Googled me (not "Justin French" but my real name), you'd get quite a few hits. (But I won't reveal my name - don't want to hurt any chances of my actually making it big...LOL)

I do not make movies "full-time" as of yet (I still have a full-time job that keeps my rent paid and my car from being repossessed). Yet filmmaking is indeed a second full-time job for me.

You may believe me, you may not - but I'm being serious. I won't reveal anything more than that right now, but someday I will.

Thanks for the credit though. I tried to make it obvious that it wasn't real and was surprised so many people thought it was a genuine movie, but that was part of the joke I guess.

Justin French
Creator of "Frozen Flesh" and "Evil Spirits"

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The sad truth behind all of this is that "Justin French" is actually based on someone that I know.

He was a film student and pretty much thought he had it all figured out. Told me his movies were going to be box office hits and he was going to get all of these deals and he was going to take the world by storm. He sent me some clips and they were pretty terrible. Just he and his friends messing around with a camcorder. I offered advice but he wouldn't listen. Thought my way was wrong and his way was better and all of that. Thought his ideas were entirely original when they clearly weren't (he swore up and down that his film was the first film in history of cinema to feature a haunted house...seriously).

Justin French
Creator of "Frozen Flesh" and "Evil Spirits"

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You do not make movies full time, but you have theatrically released films. You really should've just gone short on your lie and said that they've been in stores, straight to video. It's pathetic how far from the truth you actually are.

Why would we google your real name? We're on IMDb. If you're not on here, then you didn't get a theatrically released film, child.

Stop lying, it's pathetic.

-AP3-

'I've taught you much, my little droogies.'


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Honestly, I expected this reaction from you...LOL.

I never said theatrically-released films. I said theaters.

They've played at film festivals all across the country and overseas as well.

Many filmmakers can only afford to work on their projects on nights and weekends, which is why many truly independent films take years to complete.

I actually am on IMDB but I'm not going to spoil the fun by revealing who I am. I'm nobody famous or even someone you probably have ever heard of. But I'm someone who actually has made films that not only have people paid to see in a theater, but whose films are actually on DVD.

And my name isn't really Justin French by the way.

But I am not going to sit here and argue with you any further. I just find it so incredibly pathetic that you're continuing to try and discredit someone else...on a message board no less.

"Frozen Flesh" was made for people like you.

Justin French
Creator of "Frozen Flesh" and "Evil Spirits"

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since your other fake career is, in fact, fake. . . you had to create even ANOTHER fake persona to make MORE fake films simply to try to screw with people more intelligent than you and with better taste? Wow. Genius.

Why don't you use some of that lack of creativity to try to do something with your other fake career that you're lying about, child?

-AP3-

'I've taught you much, my little droogies.'


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I'll say it again:

"Frozen Flesh" was made for people like you.

You're just making yourself look like an idiot by continuing to be vicious. I hope you realize that.

Justin French
Creator of "Frozen Flesh" and "Evil Spirits"

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how much of a pathetic little liar you are.

-AP3-

'I've taught you much, my little droogies.'


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Then you go ahead and continue to do that...and I'll continue to laugh at you :-)

Justin French
Creator of "Frozen Flesh" and "Evil Spirits"

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You mean 'blubber like a little bitch,' then yeah, you'll be laughing.

Enjoy your sad little life.

-AP3-

'I've taught you much, my little droogies.'


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Give it a rest there, buddy.

Justin French
Creator of "Frozen Flesh" and "Evil Spirits"

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He may be jealous, he may not be. Or just angry.

I never said I was famous or that I've "made it." I still have a long way to go and I know that.

The "internet fighting" is really funny to me. I am not going to respond to him anymore, there's no point.

But I'm glad some people can take a joke.

Though, like you said, no one could be THAT clueless.

Justin French
Creator of "Frozen Flesh" and "Evil Spirits"

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My guess would be; SW was made like a vicious,hateful fool and now is about to explode with rage.
if tomorrow theres a high school massacre somewhere, we now know why and who...

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Maybe, maybe not.

Either way, it's pretty funny.

Justin French
Creator of "Frozen Flesh" and "Evil Spirits"

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If you actually look around, you'll realize this wasn't a joke. He's obviously backtracking because he is a talentless moron that was shown up by people much more intelligent than he is.

If it was, guess what: He gets a nice big fine, because I'm reporting it both to Amazon and the BBB since he is committing fraud.

-AP3-

'I've taught you much, my little droogies.'


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You should report this guy!!!? Why haven't you already done it?

The arrogance and ego, just shows how idiotic and pathetic Justin French is.

justin you are a LIAR and a LOSER !!!!!

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go back to your 'negotiations' in California, youre looking worst and worst like a loser with each post, its almost painful, child.

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hey justin, for me the top of the tops is when that shatterwake kid, actually THREATENS you with DENOUNCING you to some film authority!!!!! what...i was teary eyed from so much laughing....

exactly what film authority did shatter threatened to snitch you to?

LOL

:)

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Oh I know, I think that was one of the funniest posts I've ever read. Now, he/she seriously is taking issue with the fact that the joke was on him and people like him.

I am not sure which "film authority" he's referring to, but it'd be pretty interesting to find out.

Justin French
Creator of "Frozen Flesh" and "Evil Spirits"

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You sould change the title to "I did it for the lulz"

"I am not of the opinion that less is more, I'm of the opnion more is f#$kin more"- Ryan Nicholson

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I knew it was joke all along... funny thing you did, for sure.

Previously known as Horror_Zone

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Apparently, some people (Shattered Wake) don't think so...

It's fine, I just find it hilarious.

Justin French
Creator of "Frozen Flesh" and "Evil Spirits"

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yeah, that poor Sh!tthead Wake kid really got the short end of the stick in this whole thing, i mean not only was he completely taken but he was totally exposed as mean spirited, hateful litlle prick. poor guy, he deleted all his own posts and in the horror boards hes changed his tune a bit, afraid of being reminded of his fiasco in the FROZEN board, :)

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No, Morbidkid! You cannot be those effing IMDb Mafiers! I actually reported you guys to the admins! But anyway, the great forbensation is....stupid. Why would you guys spend so much time on trolling and spamming if people ignore you? Gosh...people.

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Um...what? IMDB Mafiers? WTF is that? And why was I reported?

"I am not of the opinion that less is more, I'm of the opnion more is f#$kin more"- Ryan Nicholson

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"We do it for the lulz"? That's obviously the motto for the IMDb Mafia but I thought you were one of them but never mind.

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IMDB Mafia? Please... It's the 4chan motto. They just stole it! Basically, it's the "Troll motto" and he was totally acting like a troll.

"I am not of the opinion that less is more, I'm of the opnion more is f#$kin more"- Ryan Nicholson

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This is a bigger upset than fake Bigfoot!




G13

Peace through strength.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtYnihTt3hg

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Ahhhhhh!!!

Good work. How the heck did you get this on IMDB? Can people just submit anything?

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...actually, the joke wouldn't be on us if we were going along with it...which I think a lot of people were doing. But anyway...ok? I don't know. How do you want us to react to this? I think many people...moved on?

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Ha ha ha! This Justin French dude is funny!

Whitearachnia's Lair
http://z11.invisionfree.com/Whitearachnias_Lair/index.php?act=idx

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Like we say in my country (Argentina) Chocolate por la noticia!

Just call me Nyar
I´m not English speaker... Be pacient.

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Yeah, this is a prank, all and all. But that's not the worst part.

The worst part is that this movie was still better than "Ben and Arthur (2002)." You have singlehandely beat that movie without even trying.

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