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All the cartoonish excess of a typical Tarantino flick,


But without any of the wit or intelligence the makes Tarantino's films work.

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So, you are attributing typical Kung Fu hijinks to Tarantino? I am not sure what that indicates more, a blind hatred of Tarantino, or contempt for Asian art forms.

Tarantino samples Kung Fu, among other genres, he does not set the tone, pace, values, or mores for the genre.

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Oh how I love when people misread posts.


First off, I'm a fan of Tarantino. And Second, no, I'm not attributing typical Kung Fu hijinks to him either. What I'm attributing to him is an intelligence, sense of humor, direction, writing, and execution that was nowhere to be found in this movie.


Sure, Tarantino's Kill Bill movies were ridiculously over the top, but they had marksmanship of a great filmmaker who was able to take a genre, and transcend it to make his own creation. And a dame fine job he did. Through his understanding of cinema, through his great dialogue, sense of humor, through the exectution, through all of it.


It's like this:

The Kill Bill movies were made by a fan.(Quentin)
The Man with the Iron Fists was made by fanboys.(the RZA, Eli Roth, etc.)

I respect the "Asian Art Form" and enjoy a classic Kung Fu movie here and there. Except if I want to watch a Kung Fu movie, I'll watch a Kung Fu movie. Not something that looks and feels as if it were made by a bunch of nerds with money who decided to get together and cosplay for 95 minutes.


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"I respect the "Asian Art Form" and enjoy a classic Kung Fu movie here and there. Except if I want to watch a Kung Fu movie, I'll watch a Kung Fu movie. Not something that looks and feels as if it were made by a bunch of nerds with money who decided to get together and cosplay for 95 minutes."

The odd thing is, I get that vibe ("get together and cosplay for 95 minutes" — A great descriptor BTW) from a lot of old school kung-fu flicks I watch as well. If you watch "Master of the Flying Guillotine" there's not a single moment I'm not thinking these are people poorly dressed up, running around in all manner of goofiness, spouting lousy dialogue and sporting even worse acting chops. But depending on my mood, I love the hell out of it because of this.

I also don't get the fan vs fanboy idea. Maybe looking at it another way... There can be fans of a comic who like to draw fan art, and just because they aren't very good artists doesn't make them any less a fan. Heck, there are commissioned artists for comic covers who might know very little about the comic itself, but their artist nature is of a superior ability.

I don't begrudge people who didn't like the film though. It's an odd duck in an already strange pond with a decent amount of deficiencies. It just so happened I watched it with a few friends and a few drinks, and now I'm stuck with a fond memory of a good dumb fun time.

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Tarantino had nothing to do with this movie. He just lent his name to Rza and Eli so the movie can draw in some viewers.

Happen to fall off a cliff. Might as well try to fly.

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Thanks for saying that. Yeah, Tarantino had nothing to do with this film. There was obviously an attempt top emulate Tarantino's style, but I feel they failed miserably.

Don't get me wrong, I had fun watching this, but there was definitely room for improvement.

Bam said the lady.

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I was going to post something similar but you did it for me. I couldn't agree more. I really wanted to like this but it was just impossible.

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