Is there gay stuff?


There was a glimpse of Rob/Rupert in the trailer so just felt like asking :D

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No, there's not really. Just a kind of close friendship :)

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why is that disgusting?

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Why would that be disgusting, exactly? Homophobic much? YOU are the disgusting one.

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If by "gay stuff" you mean an interesting story that is only partially told - yes.
5/10.

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um actually it does. that's pretty much the deffinition. Why is it gross to see two men kissing? I bet you also love lesbian porn. hypocrite. anyway to answer the OPs original question no, there is some mentioning of a threesome in a joking manor and I think you're referring to the part where they're all partying at the megaplex and Lucas and Malachy sort of put their forheads together, yeah that was just a short little thing and didn't involve any same sex kissing or anything. it was probably put in to show how high/drunk they were or something.

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Okay, please forgive my English, I just leave this here as a cumulation of ideas, I hope I manage to phrase it in conceivable English:

Men kissing is gross, because its degrading. if you are masculine you want to be the only rooster on the rubbish pile and you want to own your own girl(s). the ability of gayish behaviour is an evolutionary feat that developed to make practically all men be able to put up with each other (even intimately) in times of grave lack of women (disease, killings, prison), as during those prolonged times they HAD to be able to share women, therefore the potential of appreciating another man's presence is desirable from survival of the tribe point of view, and however necessary in some cases, it is nothing more glorious than to have the ability of eating the food that someone else chewed before you, in situations when there is nothing else to eat. chances are that you'd start enjoy it after a while. humans have the capability to get used to anything, and every capability is there for a mundane/survivalist reason in the first place, also this is why the race is successful and often disgraceful.
(also statistically every capability can get expressed with any emphasis, just like body parts can come in every size and shape, hence pure gay people exist)
When girls kiss its sweet, because its not only similarly useful to be able to share men between girls when there isn't enough of men, but it is not degrading for girls as the much smaller amount of testosterone have been predestining and evolved them to be able to effectively wield softness as one of their biggest strength!
Well at least in socialist countries, where women always had equal rights, therefore the kraken of crazy feminism was never released. well, enjoy your masculine girls and effeminate 'men' (you don't even know you are, so don't make comments about this), capitalist biatches, lol :)
(Ok I help you, here is a sanity check, look at your pubes: it is shaved and you are a guy - OR - (it is year 2010!) it is bushy and you are a girl: guess what? no luck for you mate, you will likely never experience your true destiny as it was intended in your instruction manual, although trimming can mitigate the effect in both case)

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here is something to think about: women who like men kissing are twisted, because they are brainwashed (or maybe their developing brain received too much testosterone in mother's womb for a short period of time that has no visible effect in adulthood apart from perceived nymphomania) to become like (technically, not for evolutionary reasons) gay men, born into a woman's body.


"All you get from killing monkeys is a deep sense of shame." - Alec

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So, because I think it's cute to see my brother kiss his boyfriend, I'm twisted and brainwashed? And, because I keep my bush, I'm not getting any?
What a load of bullsh*t.

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If you think Homosexual tendencies make men tolerable of other men, come down to Newhaven sometime and count how many games of "Beat The Fag" you see in one night alone.

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I talked about girls who watch homos and get horny, not for being happy for their siblings, you know that.
Yes you can get, but not "any", just the same culturally degraded men counterparts of your country of "bushy girls".

Is there a grave lack of women in Newhaven?

Have you read my post, or you just run your eyes across it?


"All you get from killing monkeys is a deep sense of shame." - Alec

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Well I do still need my yaoi fix, so I guess I am brainwashed.
And actually, most of the time it's because of my bush that I get... uh, "propositions". Apparently word got around that I condition, dye and shape. Oops :/
No shortage of women either, just too many homophobes and bigots.

And I didn't comment on the rest of your post because I assumed (okay, hoped) that it certain points were as an abstract third-person's point of view, not your own.

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Well if you would have read it, then you knew that the shortage of women was a condition for the majority of men to become tolerating each other sexually. (not all, but the majority)
Also that your peers tending habits leave a lot to desire for, only makes you outstanding amongst them, as I was talking about facts that can be measurable in percentage comparing all countries/cultures, not just the internal situations of yours.


"All you get from killing monkeys is a deep sense of shame." - Alec

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Okeydokey glad to clear that up, sorry for the misinterpretation.

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In most cultures, women don't shave. And sorry, but your English was too bad in the rest of that for me to understand what you were trying to say.


I met Cinderella once... she's actually kind of a bitch.

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YourAgent:
Way before the Christians, the Romans, the Greeks, the Babylonians, they all shaved, the Romans went as far as shaving their eyebrows as well.
In my opinion only women who are ashamed of the natural look of their shaved bits don't shave it completely. Nevertheless guys are not exempt, they should trim it to very short, if they don't want to appear unkempt.
Furthermore there is no foundation to refuse something that someone else wants, like shaving (regardless of male or female) if it costs you absolutely nothing. Everything else is pointless rhetoric and justification of selfishness.


"All you get from killing monkeys is a deep sense of shame." - Alec

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ricardo78 is my new IMDB hero.

He never became cross, even when folks turned c-un-ty.

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look at your pubes: it is shaved and you are a guy - OR - (it is year 2010!) it is bushy and you are a girl: guess what? no luck for you mate, you will likely never experience your true destiny as it was intended in your instruction manual
Are you inhaling some form of toxic fume??

Gay people are sexually attracted to memebers of the same sex, in exactly the same way that straight people are attracted to members of the opposite sex. It has nothing to do a shortage of the opposite sex. And as for your reference to prison - well prison rapes are an entirely different thing. Rape is about power, not about sexuality.

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wrong and wrong

Wrong 1
I never said anyone is not attracted to anything RIGHT NOW just like straight people do, I said they do it, because they are an extreme version of an inclination that is present in everyone, and they had millions of years and billions of people to breed from. If you breed a specific trait from this kinda size of pool, you can get almost anything that is up to par with normal. But then again, this still doesn't make it normal. You could say special. Or "super normal" as some would say. Just like you wouldn't say beautiful people or genius ones are normal, even though we all have some talents in these areas. But just like in a culture of health and beauty most people will make sure they do look prettier and in a culture of philosophy and science most people do very much care about their intellect, in a prolonged situation of lack of other sex in a society, most people do start to tolerate the homosexuals of their own sex more as at least they are not competitors, but sooner or later as you take away increasingly bigger proportion of the other sex, a homosexual individual starts to seem as more and more viable replacement, but how much do the subject welcome this increasing interest that depends on the person in question.

Wrong 3
Healthy sexuality is about power, is about conquer, is about surrender and the best if these alternate from both part, regardless of how expressed they are, these elements are always part of it, even in the most squishy metro sexual sex, they can hide it, but they are still there or otherwise it is not sexuality, but rather tickling each other or like petting an animal or consoling a friend.

(also the part you quoted has nothing to do with gays, so this technically should be wrong 3)


@Agency757 "In most cultures, women don't shave."
Wrong. Only in 2 cultures: the primitive ones and the feminist ones, both of them has the earth mother type, but in the first one the men are manimals so they don't care, in the second men are pussies and too scared to say anything. (of course there are different cultures in different countries, but there are many "social tribes" in the same country as well, these 2 types are present there too, but luckily not just these 2)


"All you get from killing monkeys is a deep sense of shame." - Alec

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ewww why dont you just go look for gay stuff on gay porn sites. this whole topic creeps me out.

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in a prolonged situation of lack of other sex in a society, most people do start to tolerate the homosexuals of their own sex more as at least they are not competitors, but sooner or later as you take away increasingly bigger proportion of the other sex, a homosexual individual starts to seem as more and more viable replacement, but how much do the subject welcome this increasing interest that depends on the person in question.
In that case why are there so many gay men in areas like dance and musical theatre which are areas where WOMEN are in the majority? That can't have anything to do with a lack of the opposite sex. You can't just magically make yourelf become attracted to memebers of the same sex just because there aren't many members of the opposite sex around. By that logic that'd make all members of single sex schools gay, monks and nuns gay, all members of the army gay (seeing as this is an area when men are in the majority) and all female dancers lesbians (see above).
Healthy sexuality is about power, is about conquer, is about surrender and the best if these alternate from both part, regardless of how expressed they are, these elements are always part of it, even in the most squishy metro sexual sex, they can hide it, but they are still there or otherwise it is not sexuality, but rather tickling each other or like petting an animal or consoling a friend.
That has nothing to do with prison rape.
(also the part you quoted has nothing to do with gays, so this technically should be wrong 3)
Maybe I misunderstood you but didn't you say that men in prison 'become gay' due to there being a lack of women?

The bottom line is no-one can control who they are attracted to. Some people are attracted to members of the opposite sex, some people are attracted to members of the same sex, and some people are attracted to both sexes. It is not a choice people make or something that changes out of desperation.

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In that case why are there so many gay men in areas like dance and musical theatre which are areas where WOMEN are in the majority?
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I've been talking about the majority who happens to be straight. In your example the subjects are gay men AND they are the minority. And they are already gay.
It is also logically impossible to be a minority and a majority at the same time, so the opposite situation doesn't exist, I hope you can understand this.
(ie if you have majority gays, then they have no lack of partner, but if they are minority of gays then their orientation is irrelevant in the context of my statements. Remember what I said and what I talked about. I said nothing about minorities. I've been talking about majorities. I simply have no theory about how gay people behave when they are a minority and honestly I don't really care as it is their business, but in any case and that is the most important, their proportion in regards of mating partner never changes. ie if there are 2 gay people they are in 50:50 ratio and if there are 1000 gay people then they are still in 50:50 mating partner ratio and if you would remember another condition was to a circumstance or environment to become special in this regard to have an increasingly disproportionate ratio of mating partners)
Furthermore when that is actually the case, ie the desirable gay partners are very low in number, then gay people likely do start to display interest in straight people.

I never said magically any or all members of any group can turn, I said the chance of an individual in a big group, to show interest increases over time and disproportion of sexes. This is a big difference in every word. (ie every word is carefully chosen and has to be understood, like "chance" doesn't mean "going to" and "increasingly showing interest" doesn't mean doing it or actually having an interest doing it, maybe just fantasizing about it or having unwanted imaginations, I'm having trouble understanding why can't you understand what is written black and white and why do you feel you must polarize my statements)

Healthy sexuality has not much to do with prison rape, apart from both are sexual acts and they have the similar relation to power ie: inherent part of both. The difference is the degree of emotional investment and consent.

Yes you misunderstood. I never said people become gay in prison. I said they become more tolerant to gays and in a big group and over prolonged time, there is an increasing chance that more and more straight people start to display interest in effeminate gays. These special circumstances does not make implicitly any straight person to become gay, not unless they were closet gays anyways, but if they weren't in the first place, than there is nothing that would stop a straight person who temporarily ventures into the realm of homosexuality to completely become uninterested in the same sex in the minute the special circumstances are over, or maybe even to find out they are bisexual.

What I'm saying is sexual interest can change according to environment and just simply over time, or many times it doesn't. There are numerous examples to both.

You will find it surprising, but "I" agree with you in your last paragraph, however a very big number of gays take pride out of their "choice" to be a homosexual. On the account of the subject's desperation or even their boredom(!), however I don't agree with you, but maybe we can agree to disagree on this.

"All you get from killing monkeys is a deep sense of shame." - Alec

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Ricardo: Your posts make no sense.

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LilRed RoRo: That's okay, how many times have you read it? If it is less than 3 times, then you are being too impatient with yourself. Any system reference will require you to read it at least three times before you get a reasonable picture. It is in the first chapter of the Unix manual. (Chapter 1.5: http://rute.2038bug.com/node4.html.gz)
Also refer to what a system is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System
(ie ANY interrelated set of components with clear boundaries)

"All you get from killing monkeys is a deep sense of shame." - Alec

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I like a lot what you are saying about everything but I realise something, your thoughts are very deep what mean that you are not:
- first, a capitalist because usually peoples having all at their disposal is not understanding the lacking ones
- second, flat or 2 dimension because you have plenty of events and a full and flavoured life, also your name has latino-american origins
- third, you are trying to explain to some in box peoples, their life is so and will be the same until a dangerous event will occure like a regime changing or a natural catastrophy
Is sad that only a bad life (like under a dictatorial regime, communist or military one) could lead to a better understanding of the world, probably when you lack something you must replace with something else (for ex. not having computers you must read books) and also having poor access at informational sources lead to a new looking by yourself and finally the fact that the leader of the dictatorial regime is a liar made you not so trustful in anything else and looking always for more independent if possible sources. I understand well because my country is Romania and I realise that your try here is like fighting the mill winds (see Don Quijotte). And of course my english is far worse than your so if they understand or not is not my concern, they can f.ck themselves if they are liking or not, the capitalist system is a dying one just they don't realise yet but most what they don't realise is that their richess is based on sucking wealth from all other countries, because if not they were like us no difference would be.

Un liber cugetator care are curajul sa gindeasca si altfel decit majoritatea

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LOL you are a moron. Enjoy your ignorance, buddy.

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everything is natural that happens in nature

"Anyone who claims to be a feminist instead of a humanist is a tap dancing monkey."

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ricardo78: Pick up a science journal sometime. Or better yet, try reading an anthropology text book because everything you just wrote here is wrong.

Second of all, who the heck are you to judge other people's turn ons?

Third, clearly, you feel threatened by females because a) you believe them to be inferior and submissive to men, b) "kraken of crazy feminism"? Are you out of your mind? Women throughout the world were denied civil rights for hundreds and thousands of years. I am so proud of the ones who told sexist scum like you to back off and give them the equality they so deserved. It's myths and BS like "shaved or unshaved pubes", as you strangely decided to comment on, that has held people back for centuries. Seriously. Go get an education because you are severely lacking in areas of language, reasoning, science, and history.

Fourth, I don't even want to imagine what kind of household you were brought up in that you must base your own masculinity around making women feel submissive and having to peacock in front of other men. Your comments make you sound extremely insecure and homophobic. You might want to seek therapy to help you come to terms with the falsities you've been taught about traditional gender roles (which, by the way, are changing in today's society. It's about time!)

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BlackWolfJ31:

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You mean a 'gender science' journal? Those female entitlement nazis know as much about equality, as Darth Vader about the smell of the cooking food.
They ARE supremacists and they HAVE already achieved their brainwashing rhetoric in ages ago that you parrot.

Here is something for you to read so you will see just how far they went, if you want to see and understand the result of the devastating handiwork of ideological feminists and their demented white knights:
Nathanson, Paul; Young, Katherine R. (2001). Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture. Harper Paperbacks. Montreal: McGill-Queen's University Press. ISBN 0-77353-099-7
Nathanson, Paul; Young, Katherine R. (2006). Legalizing Misandry: From Public Shame to Systemic Discrimination Against Men. Montreal: McGill-Queen's University Press. ISBN 0-77352-862-8

You see the idea of feminism by definition is utterly deranged, because as long as anyone says they are feminist instead of HUMANIST, they totally discredit themselves in the eyes of everyone with any common sense and actual sense of equality.

Second:
I have never judged anyone's turn ons. If you say that you are lying.

Third, fourth etc:
I do not believe women would be inferior. I do believe that the lack of testosterone makes women to enjoy being submissive, because a strong man (ie one with lots of testosterone) is like an oven to their soft clay made heart, as it burns it to rigid porcelain which will be all too easy to break. THIS is NATURE and this is the insecurity that ideological feminists do not want to put up with, but also this is what they could achieve in the only case if they got testosterone in their system somehow (ie turn themselves into males) or make themselves ideologically and systematically hypnotized into the thought of being dominant could be satisfying as a lifestyle for women (reminiscent of uncontrolled, spoiled children, whom have as few actual biological basis for being bossy as them), whilst that as lifestyle can only ever bring bitterness, loneliness and a never filling hole in their soul to them (Just like it does to men. But men are not reliant on oxytocin as much as women, so mature men can put up with the downs of dominant lifestyle naturally, whilst the soothing presence of women is always a plus)
Now imagine the dominant woman and her male admirers, isn't always the beautiful (and/or cheap) woman who pulled this kind of trick off in the history? This should be a give away to understand we are talking about plain supply and demand and not some mystical female revolutionist who historically and miraculously broke the traditional 'gender roles' because of her own right.
The only way to make all women like this is to make them all beautiful, as this is (unfortunately) impossible, feminists think lowering men expectations will have the same effect just fine. That is the self reinforcing circle of pushing men down and hoping to get more attention to the mingers at the same time.
Welcome in our coming century, where unwashed hairy drunkard and fat women are the stars in the name of 'equality'.
Even still, women can be equal in life AND submissive in bed (or dominant if they wish), the problem is when someone like ideological feminists INDUSTRIALLY judge anyone for their turn ons, as surely they do when a woman dares to choose to be submissive in bed these days. Isn't THAT too about choice anymore or WHAT?
I enjoy my girl to be submissive in bed (I actually like to alternate our roles) and I wish I was daring enough to peacock in front of other men, because this is NORMAL! Our testosterone makes us do this, if someone had any that is! AND NOT TAUGHT GENDER ROLES!
Regardless of what your brain washer western media and rotten corrupt to the core academia taught you, the traditional HUMAN roles are always like that:
Someone who is dominant in life is normally submissive in bed, regardless of gender. A person who is submissive in life, normally wants power in bed, regardless of gender. If two (three, etc) people who complement each other in these, find each other, then they will be happy.
What ideological feminists want is power in life and power in bed, and all men should just disappear and shut up and pay all the bills after the kids.
And this is all too logical continuation of their justification of their self important existence, (in politics, science etc) as once you go towards equality and you achieved it, then the all too obvious route is to continue further to supremacy, otherwise why would they be needed anymore? They do not call themselves Guardians of Equality for a REASON.


"All you get from killing monkeys is a deep sense of shame." - Alec

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I kind of thought Luke was in love with Malachy, or at least cared for him in an almost romantic way.

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almost..it would have been cool..if...

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I'm not homophobic but the idea of two sweaty, hairy dudes rolling around in bed together is disgusting to me. Then again the same goes for any amount of sweaty hairy people rolling around naked together be it men or women or both.

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I'm not homophobic but the idea of two sweaty, hairy dudes rolling around in bed together is disgusting to me. Then again the same goes for any amount of sweaty hairy people rolling around naked together be it men or women or both.


Rupert Grint & Robert Sheehan are hardly hairy. As far as what the OP was asking, nothing on film, but who knows what could have happened. That's what imagination is for.



And there was Poppy. And God said, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fetch Tim to fix the doors."

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What sort of question is that? Nothing happens in this film and thankfully nothing gay happens either. Now go away.

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