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War on Christmas

posted 12 years ago by leonardlikesthispost
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For the most part, I liked "Lord, Save Us...."

It was interesting to see a documentary about the culture wars from a Christian point of view, and I thought the narrator/director took great pains to open up his world view and see things from the other side. We so rarely get documentaries from the Right. It was refreshing and really made me see how brash directors like Michael Moore can be if you aren't a supporter of his politics. This was made perfectly clear when the map of the U.S. was being "PC-ified," and all the names of cities were being secularized, as they were under communism in the U.S.S.R.

I was a little offended by some of the shots taken against liberal icons there, and the slippery slope argument being used to make those jokes, and yet, I could perfectly see how this is a tactic used by Moore, et al, all the time. Well, played. Well, played.

However, as a secular humanist (I guess, as that's I am identified by the culture divide), I don't really understand the War on Christmas. Even the scene where he makes the point that all decorations have to be "holiday" decorations felt...I dunno. Incredulous? I mean, the entire diner is decked out in what can ONLY be described as Christmas decorations, and his complaint is there is no baby Jesus? Even things as "secular" as the candy cane are meant to symbolize Jesus (his shepherd's staff). I wonder how people would feel if every major store switched out their decorations for Hanukah or Kwanza lights. Once that happens, I can buy the War on Christmas. Until then, I don't really see it.

Yeah, it kinda sucks that we are so PC that we can't wish people a Merry Christmas in public spaces, and that we self-censor so much so as not to offend. I certainly wouldn't mind if someone wished me a Happy Hanukah or Kwanza. Or a Happy Diwali. Or any other holiday I don't observe....the intent is to spread a blessing and good cheer. So what's the offense?

But to say that there is a War on Christmas is a little disingenuous....or rather, it's so ignorant of alternative points of view, that it's comical.

[–] rgcustomer 11 years ago

"we are so PC that we can't wish people a Merry Christmas in public spaces"

1. What's wrong with being considerate of other people's feelings? Why would the first (or last) thing you say to a person be something that might exclude them as a hated minority (atheist, Muslim, Wiccan, etc.)?
2. Individuals can greet each other however they wish, and last I checked, they do. But representatives of government and business are representing their employer, not themselves, and need to act accordingly. It's good business to broaden the market. It's good (and legal) government not to play favorites.
3. Next time someone wishes you Merry Christmas, answer with Happy Hanukah (or any other specific seasonal greeting). If it truly doesn't matter.