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The stuff happening in Sudan is awful. I'm not against an impassioned plea to humanity in the form of a documentary who's proceeds will go to charity, but to make a film - entertainment - about the crisis is an insult to everyone who is dead or displaced as a result of the conflict. To have Uwe Boll make that film is...beyond words. I never thought I'd say this, but please, Uwe, go back to making video game movies.

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Movies has been made of all kinds of crisis and disasters, without pissing on the victims and family. Walz with Bashir, World Trade Center and so on...
Why shouldn't you make movies about Darfur?

World Trade Center was entertainment (and a terrible movie), Schindlers List was entertainment, so I really can't see your point... Beside the whole "Boll thing".

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I've read the script.

Its very good. As Uwe has told me, the point of the film is to show what the documentaries don't. The actual massacre. You can only get so much emotion out of someone talking about it. But no one will be able to ignore a gut wrenching no holds bar reenactment of the things happening.

As Uwe said, everyone talks about how bad it is, yet no one does anything about it. Who is the real monster? Those that stand on the sidelines watching and discussing how bad it is with their Starbucks in hand? Or those committing the horrors? Hopefully this will truly open peoples eyes.

Trust me, Uwe feels deeply about this subject. This isn't going to be some gory entertaining BS. This will be a real to life, hard hitting film. Much more powerful than those Documentaries such as Darfur Now and The Devil Rides on Horseback.

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Uwe has also said he felt deeply about the video games he continues to rape.

If Uwe has proven anything it's that he lives in an isolated bubble where he believes himself to be a master filmmaker...he goes on and on about all this "positive feedback" he claims to receive for every project...no, just look, this film - regardless of how "deeply" he feels about the subject matter - is just one of nearly 10 projects he's helming in the next 2 years. He doesn't commit to any projects, he shoots them quickly and cheaply without any real thought, confusing quick turnaround with good filmmaking. I seriously doubt he does more than one take of a scene.

It's like Friedberg & Seltzer (Disaster Movie, etc) doing a film about the Holocaust.

I have little doubt Boll is doing this just so he can brag about being the first director to ever make a mainstream film about the ongoing crisis in Darfur. So that in a few years when well-known dramatic hollywood directors (inevitably) touch on the subject he can brag about it and release a youtube video with him going on in a thick german accent how he was "ze first direktor in ze entire vorld to address zis zubjekt, zerefore i am a genius, ha ha ha ha"

But I will say this. I'm primarily offended that a film about the darfur crisis is being made. The fact that Uwe Boll is writing/directing it just adds to my anger. It just pisses me off when there's some genocide going on and instead of intervening, all people think is "how can I make money off of these people's suffering? I know I'll make a movie." And then of course if it's successful, it just shows how stupid the audience is that they will only care about a subject if it's a movie.

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Boll did not write the film, he wrote the treatment. I know this because I was opted to write the script after another guy, named Ned, had backed out. I got into it with Boll and quit the film and taking my script with me. I am re-writing my whole script and changing about 90% of everything. If you have questions, PM me. I'll answer.

Damien Frost and Apocalypse: 2012, coming in 2010.

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the only good thing that can come of him making a film about Darfur is if he sends ALL the money made from this film to a relief fund for the victims there. If he keeps any money made it just shows what a terrible, stupid person he is.

I completely agree with you on the fact that he doesn't really care about what is going on and is oblivious to the world. Just the line up of movies he has coming out is sickening.

Making a movie about Darfur is not a bad thing though. Somehow the topic of whats going on over there is still unknown to some people. We seem to care more about Michael Jackson dying then hundreds of people dying all the time over there. Making a film can bring more attention to the problem, I just wish it isn't this bastard making it.

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Please, can you stop equating the sub-par adaptation of a computer game with sexual assault. It's incredibly adolescent and robs your argument of any real credibility. The idea that a bad movie is "rape" or that Boll has "raped" an idea shows a complete inability to grasp the seriousness of real-life sexual violence.

And you talk about Boll living in a bubble and not having any true feeling for his source?

If you want to see a truly offensive film, check out Rambo: an absolutely disgraceful piece of work on almost every level.

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Sorry but rape is the perfect word to use for what Boll does. In the figurative sense it means "the wanton destruction or spoiling" or a place, area, or thing.

Also Rambo was good. It was good because it accepted the fact that it was a disgraceful piece of gore porn. Movies are truly only bad when they try to live up to something more than they could ever be - in other words, when the execution fails - as boll's films always do.

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Please, can you stop equating the sub-par adaptation of a computer game with sexual assault. It's incredibly adolescent and robs your argument of any real credibility. The idea that a bad movie is "rape" or that Boll has "raped" an idea shows a complete inability to grasp the seriousness of real-life sexual violence


You need to go learn the actual english definitions for the word rape before you get on your high horse there dopey.

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"Who is the real monster? Those that stand on the sidelines watching and discussing how bad it is with their Starbucks in hand?"

Gee, 'cause that's a completely original idea that has never been done before, nor is there a famous quote with a similar theme. And who's worse, the people at Starbucks discussing how bad it is in Darfur or the people at Starbucks who don't even know what Darfur is? And exactly what is one individual going to do about Darfur seeing as there's no easy volunteer opportunities or ability to go over there like, say, with India, or even much of the rest of Africa.

And what about the Congo? And what about the bad things that happen here in America? Not everyone in this country is living the so called 'American dream.'

But I assume you volunteer your time to many good causes, right? And so does the esteemed Dr. Boll, correct? Good.

But with all that said, Dr. Boll making a film called Darfur is not a new concept. For perspective I think everyone should remember Ed Wood's Holocaust film Plan Kill from Germany and D.W. Griffith's The Birth of a Nation (those evil domineering slaves!)

Seriously though, what's happened in Darfur has really pissed me off... it started in 2003 around the exact same time we were going into Iraq, and yet Saddam was the bad guy of the world and nobody cared about the Sudan. It's not that anyone can just go in and PRESTO FIX IT, but a lot could be done to help - including making sure people trying to flee the country actually have a place to go. A lot of the violence is happening the in the refuge camps.

On the other hand, saying that people who go to Starbucks are as evil as people who sodomize children with machetes is a touch absurd - and I hate empire Starbucks. When horrible things happen, the worst people are always the ones doing the atrocities. But to stand by and watch the world devour itself can also be a sin... not every problem can be fixed, but human suffering should never be ignored.

And I'm SURE Dr. Boll is just the man to do that. Just like Joe the Plumber.

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You read the script? Really? Neat trick!

"There were no lines prepared for the film according to Uwe Boll. In a behind-the-scenes documentary, Boll stated that after all the advice and help the production had received from the many Sudanese extras, he considered it arrogant to hand them a script on what to say. He also believed that the scenes of dialogue would flow more realistically if they weren't scripted."

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1236471/trivia

How did you get one when Boll himself says none was "prepared?"

Just wonderin'.

Open the pod bay doors, Hal.

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In my opinion this is just sick. Maybe Uwe Boll feels he has good motives about this but this is ongoing crisis which seems to be getting worse and BTW this human tragedy is on a much greater scale than that happening in the Gaza Strip. Instead of dealing with Iraq we should have been looking at ways to stop a much greater humanitarian crisis. This is not war this is genocide.

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Knowing him it wouldn't surprise me. This is sad and scary. I have no problem at all about making a movie about the disaster in Sudan, but this is going to be his sick idea of what happens, and just like all his other movies it will just be about whats in his head. That is just not okay with this subject.

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I have a feeling that Boll will succeed for once in his life. As I've said a million times before. Watch the trailer; it looks pretty good. And check on the production notes; the actors were put under a lot of pressure to prepare meticulously. This may very well be the film that turns out to be a good Boll film.

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Nothing 'entertaining' about it! Grow up.
At least Boll did something! Hollywood wouldn't. No way' liberal' lefty Hollywood criticises Arab Muslims.

At least Boll had the balls.

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the point of this film was showing the actual crisis to open people's eyes rather then only talking about it the way other documentary films have. sure it was brutal and it looked like the evil characters won in the end. but at least one life was saved by a Journalist [Kristanna Lokan's character] her emotion looked real when she carried that baby away and cried over her now dead friend


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