Does anybody had the sensation that the main message is that Arabs... - Un prophète (2010) Discussion

[–] 11 years ago

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Why don't you attack his half-hearted suggestion (he's not even presenting an argument so much as merely sharing his impression) rather than resort to labeling him or his idea "racist"? Maybe the movie is racist and he picked up on it. I don't believe that about the movie, but I think your comment approaches a level of intolerance which those who cite "racism" claim to wish to prevent.

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[–] piapaya 11 years ago

I should apologize, I originally read the comment in the OP as "ruin" not "run".

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[–] jigalini 11 years ago

I think it shows or symbolizes how they are taking over France. Same for movie called pusher 3, set in Netherelands. Europe is becoming predominatley Muslim, so it's natural to see it in movie.

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[–] movie_nazi 10 years ago

I think it shows or symbolizes how they are taking over France. Same for movie called pusher 3, set in Netherelands. Europe is becoming predominatley Muslim, so it's natural to see it in movie.

That's stupid IMO. That would be like saying in the 1930's the Italians were taking over the US simply because they had the largest foothold on organized crime.

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[–] safe1978 10 years ago

Pusher 3 was set in Denmark not the Netherlands (different places) and was about an ageing Serbian gangster and his tensions with a younger drug dealer who happened to be Arab.

Pusher 3 was about about the ways of the street and how crime corrupts and ultimately gives little reward.

How you worked out that that symbolised Muslims taking over Europe is beyond me.

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[–] met76 8 years ago

I think it shows or symbolizes how they are taking over France. Same for movie called pusher 3, set in Netherelands. Europe is becoming predominatley Muslim, so it's natural to see it in movie.

That's not true.

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[–] redbellypig 10 years ago

It wasn't about race. It dealt with factions. Arab versus Corsicans. In America it could have easily been made about Whites versus Hispanics. It was about a rise to power by one very clever individual and what he had to do to get there. I felt the main message was, if you outsmart them all, you will be made king.

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[–] Little_Korean 10 years ago

Run a prison, maybe. It's a far cry from the world.

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[–] remembervhs 10 years ago

Absolutely not.

I think your political leanings are working your way into your understanding of this movie.

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[–] kenny-164 10 years ago

I think it inescapable that the protagonist is viewed as a heroic figure. What did he do? Joined with Arabs who were motivated to some extent by an Islamist pov, found at least in part in such motivation a not only acceptance but a wholehearted commitment to violence, and in fact a violent attack on a city street, with no real apparent consideration for the risks to innocents around them.

Perhaps a certain audience rooted the protagonist on, but i was appalled by the film's approval of violence. Imo it tended to greatly undermine the legitimacy of the Arab grievances explored earlier in the film. Where does such violence end?

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[–] Nektarije 10 years ago

I think that if you watch this movie from typical European position, black/white, small/big, friend/enemy, ie. binary oppositions, is actually very wrong angle.

At the beginning of the movie we see Malik entering prison, not knowing how to read, how to sign, abandoned by his biological parents and, if I remember correctly, without second name. This means that he basically didn't really care if he or the person next to him, was black, white, Jewish, Russian, American, or whatever.

My point is that I believe this movie is trying to show how European mentality - the feeling of a superior race, colonialist/racist behavior, etc. is creating "enemies", or this world as a whole a dangerous place, by supporting and imposing its politics of superiority.

Ultimately, I believe that the end of the movie is probably implying that European man is staying in mental prison, because of its racist behavior, while the "others", in this case Arabs, are making their ways through.

Great movie!

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[–] fleischwolf 9 years ago

Exactly, because Muslims are such a tolerant bunch and do not think in black and white (believer- infidel) at all and also never had colonies (Ottoman empire). Good thing you're not ignorant or clueless at all, huh?

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[–] Ralyyy 7 years ago

Don't put all Muslims in the same pot. Ottomanian empire was not Arab.

Malik was an ethnic arab, and he felt derided by the contemptuous Corsican mobsters. He did all they asked, did his bid for years, and they kept talking to him like he was trash. The way they talked about all arabs (they have hashish for brains), him included, it was not surprising he turned on them.

Bear in mind, Malik was never exactly a Muslim. He had his spiritual experiences, but as far as we know, he never stopped eating pork and never went to pray. If you watched this movie, and came out with conclusions of Muslim intolerance, I don't know what to tell you.

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