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The original will always rule but this wasn't a bad movie.


It really isn't as bad as people on this board make it out to be and is a far more satisfying remake than the piece of *beep* Total Recall remake that came out back in 2012. Now that was garbage. I like this one because it covered other areas of the Murphy story that the original lacked such as the relationship between Murphy and his family and Gary Oldmans character essentially playing Geppetto in a futuristic Pinocchio type of film.

Check out the marathon I did with this version of Robocop titled When Technology Becomes Its Own Pinocchio. You can see it here on my blog.

http://mbmb14.blogspot.com/2015/07/when-technology-morphs-into-pinocchio.html

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I agree. I don't think the Robocop remake was a terrible movie, and I think most of all it really suffered for not having an R rating. I thought there were some interesting elements, such as the actual development of the Robocop suit at OmniCorp and Gary Oldman's character was also very good. Unfortunately the gunfights had a video game feel, which is interesting from a theme frame point because Alex Murphy was being controlled by an a.i during combat and was only along for the ride. However I think things should have gotten more interesting and more brutal as the movie escalated.
Besides what was allowed under a pg-13 rating, I think the biggest drag on the movie were the villians. Antoine Vallon was about as generic a crimelord as you can get. It seemed like he walked off the set of about a hundred action movies. Michael Keaton was interesting, but an interesting and legit bad guy is something the remake lacked that the original had.

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I agree; much better than the "Total Recall" remake, and it added new elements that worked, so it should win praise for that.






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This remake was horrible. The first hour of the movie was so boring I had to turn it off because it was so *beep* awful.

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Yeah, I really enjoyed the remake a lot.


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I liked it more than the original, they tried doing something different with the material than just copying what the original did.

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It is a very decent remake, with excellent effects, decent acting and did ok with fleshing out Murphy's human\organic life and relationship with his family, before being turned cyborg. It is marred by attempting to be too serious and needed stronger 'R' rated violence and meaner villains. They likely wanted to sway away from the satire aspects of the original to do something different, and be more politically and media agendized. This could have been it's main flaw\failure as fans would have been anticipating a more fun ride, ala Robocop 1 & 2.


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I thought the remake was much better than an average remake, cause it explored new ideas, with new characters, rather than just doing too much of the same thing over again, which a lot of remakes do nowadays.

I think this is actually close to being as good as the original. Not quite maybe, but close, and it's definitely the second best Robocop movie.

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The original Robocop was sort of a dark comedy and this movie was more of a watered down action movie which is what most movies are nowadays.

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I enjoyed the remake as it told the story from a different angle without turning into a carbon copy of the 1987 original.

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It suffered for having the name Robocop. If you change the basic premise, but still want to use the name, that will put your movie at a disadvantage. Original Robocop = dead human cop parts used to enhance cybernetic cop. Human part wins out in the end (if you disregard the sequels). New Robocop: injured cop gets new body. Company tries to control that body, and fails. It is a fundamentally different approach. The original is much darker, Murphy has given his life, but OCP will not even let his corpse rest in piece. New Murphy is injured, but he is saved. Technically he is still alive, still a cop and his new body is a prosthetic that is partially remote controlled. It would have worked better if it wasn't Robocop because people have expectations about who or what Robocop is. I did not hate the movie because it is bad. It isn't very good but my problem is that they tried to do something original, which is good, but still wanted to use the name Robocop to get asses in seats. Which is bad. They slapped the name on a very different character and stuck him in a generic sci-fi action movie.

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That does sum up a lot of the issues I had with the movie. It wasn't terrible but I don't know if it should have been called Robocop. More satire would have helped and even a few nods to the original, like with how Murphy twirls his gun before putting it away. The 2014 Murphy seems like an earnest detective but there's not much personality there.

The reason it didn't get an R rating was the expanding budget during production. If this had come out after Deadpool then maybe the studio would have been willing to take the risk but not back in 2014.

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While I hate reboots as a rule (especially when it wasn't needed to compensate for tech changes, etc...the 1987 original absolutely works, watched it back to back with this AND DAMN IT'S NEARLY PERFECT). Nonetheless, I always try to watch a movie and judge it by its own merits. Did it entertain me, was it decently produced, acted, directed, scored? And lastly, did they make changes vs the original and were the changes needed or improvements or at least interesting.

This movie isn't bad, no. You cannot invest in the expensive and talented cast you have here and have a complete clunker. You cannot invest that amount of cash they did in sfx and have a total snore fest.

That said: they made changes I did NOT like, at all (where is my badass Ann Lewis? She's out and we get a "Honey, I'm worried about you *poutpout*" blond wife stereotype for our major, *almost* only female role with more than 1 scene in the whole damn movie). I also feel like they spent a lot of money on some expensive, talented white guys and they are going to make sure we see them ALL the time. RC 1 and 2 had a talented cast, but 1 especially didn't shove your face in it. They let the concept and the world draw you in and tell the story for you. Each actor, and there were many, had their bits to play but they didn't drag it out. I feel like they sacrificed story here to get maximum exposure of the talent and it drags. I also enjoyed a variety of tv shows (sitcoms, news, commercials) giving you glimpses into Murphy's Detroit whereas in this one, we get Jackson (arguably my favorite male actor, period) doing an infotainment show based in whoknowswhere that only talks about one thing, apparently...love him, but it lacked the variety of the first movies multimedia glimpses)

I also think the direction of the making of the Robocop, why and how it as done and the legalities, that everyone knows about it, the wife knows, etc, took all the pathos out of it. RC 1 wasn't a stupid action fantasy because you had a good guy in there, suffering, and seeing remnants of his old life and putting it together, but his rage was overridden by his sense of duty. The menace of the corporation being so manipulative and acting like Detroit was their fiefdom was chilling and too close to reality. The OCP in the reboot is Keaton pretending to be Good Guy Corp (or thinking he truly is) so the sting is removed, the threat is removed. It's just a *misguided* idea. Oh me, oh my. It's the same mistake with Spielberg's Jurassic Park. In the book, Hammond NEVER admitted his idea was wrong or dangerous, that he felt entitled to play god and was wrong to do so. He died thinking it was his right to play god. In the movie he does a nice little "OH yes, I don't approve of MY park either, tee hee". The book leaves a sense of menace of nothing learned, this will repeat, but the movie...nope, all Disney and nice.

Terrible lead, too. Guy is dry as dust, and that works in his role on House of Cards...he's playing a safe, conservative politician. Vanilla is fine. But for this? There is no subtlety, no tragedy, no anguish. He tries, but Weller is a better actor and owned that role. They needed a much better actor to convey the complexity of emotions Murphy should be going through.

So no, not terrible, but not good. Average, and that's a shame considering the money and talent involved.

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I really wanted to dislike this film, but it was not half bad.

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