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So we should let the IED makers and other insurgents go?


Its wrong to make them listen to barney over and over again, so we have to let them go to kill more people.

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Not all the people captured were insurgents or IED makers.

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Insurgent is the new word for Freedom Fighter. The French Resistance was an Insurgency. Bad guys?

Get out of Iraq and there would be no need for IED's.

Get educated.

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If the US forces exited Iraq now, there would be a mass of bombings. As already now, these would be directed towards people in mosques, food markets and street corners.

True that there would be no IED problem if the US would never have entered Iraq, but the reason for that would obviously have been that Saddam would have ruled. Good or bad? That is in the eye of the beholder. Insurgents or freedom fighters? Not so easy to define in that part of the world. What is freedom and for whom? Easy to answer in WW2 (especially with the 20/20 vision hindsight), less easy in Iraq of 2010.

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Even if some of them weren't, some of them were. So you can't deny their is a moral dilemma. I believe it would be hard to reach a decision, one way or the other.

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based on the movie's implications, i was under the impression they were all innocent hence why they were let go. they were just captured and detained because of their race and then subjected to all those torture techniques for study for the psy-ops stuff. if anyone, like superiors, questioned anything they could just say they were insurgents and nobody would question it since this is the age of...

"if you're brown, you're a terrorist"

that one guy being tortured by Barney (that sounds hilarous to type btw lol)...i was positive it was gonna end up being that guy they save earlier in the movie. the way they kept hiding his face i was waiting for a big reveal but i guess it wasnt him. lol



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No, you I guess you should keep them locked up without trial for ever and ever, just like the little fascists you are.

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The differencee is that presently US troops are there under permission and authority of the elected government of Iraq. In fact those elected leaders are worried over the troop reductions. True, that some members of the government want them out now but in a democracy the majority generally rules.

The trouble makers in Iraq are not accomplishing anything by planting IEDs and sniper attacks. It only makes the elected government have more worries about what will happen when the US leaves. If they had any sense they would bide their time and then try to depose of the elected government with their own dictatorship, ala Iran.

So your analogy is false.


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So yer ok with any of our enemies torturing our captured guys right? After all, our guys would just go back to their units and kill more people too, right?
I'm guessing you are totally ok with the way the Japanese treated the American POWs in WWII then, right?
Or.....is it just some hypocritical argument that ONLY applies to how WE treat prisoners?

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well said. ********** for you.

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I think this movie makes some of the things discussed interesting subject matter, as to how plausible they are, such as remote viewing and if the military are really using these techniquesSource:Movie Reviews The Men Who Stare At Goatshttp://moviereviews.noskram.com/2010/01/movie-reviews-the-men-who-star e-at-goats

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