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What an INCREDIBLY SEXIST film ....Spoilers!


What a disgustingly male chauvanist sexist film this was. Seriously, these scenes were just sooooo pathetic.....SPOILERS AHEAD:

1. The son looking at the kitchen knife obviously thinking about killing his mother and lover who are in the next room. Idiot, she's cheating on your father, not YOU, so mind your damn business and GROW UP.

2. The mother ALLOWING her son to slap her and treat her with no respect. As if he even had a RIGHT to stick his nose into her business....seriously. Incredible how she didn't chuck him out of the house.

3. The son trying to keep from the father that the mother had visited the politician's office to pick up the money for the car .......as if it was SHOCKING for a woman to do something like that, you know, have business dealings with a man.

4. The pathetic woman falling for that ugly pug nosed politician just because he said some stupid little pathetic comment about him crying when he reads poetry...... Most of the stupid muslim men I know seem to think that men can say this rubbish talk to women and that they will fall for it, as the pathetic woman does in this film. Get a life, only severely obese or ugly women (or just the ones with zero self esteem in general) are actually ever that desperate to believe this kind of rubbish from a sleazy man they've just met.

5. The pathetic woman getting all sexy in the bedroom for her ugly hairy husband and not saying anything when he starts treating her roughly, even leaving her with cuts and bruises. I guess he had every right to treat her like however he wanted because she was his, if he felt like it he can rape her, kill her, who cares?

6. The pathetic woman begging her lover not to leave her, begging on her knees and clinging to his leg......please....do I need to say anyting....! ...

7. The ever increasinigly pathetic woman even ACTUALLY sittiing on the balcony edge, looking at the ape (husband) to see if he GIVES HER PERMISSION to live or to die.... like as if it was up to him if she jumps or doesn't .

By the fact that neither the ape nor the son kill the woman, were we meant to think "oh how good they were, look, they didn't kill her, she's so lucky to have such a 'modern' husband and 'son', and soooo forgiving they are too "?

I guess the idiots had never ever heard about DIVORCE. Big deal, your wife cheats on you, you leave her and marry another woman.....like everybody in the MODERN world does. But no, that NOTION was too modern for this pathetic film.

If this film represents modern day Turkey (and I hope it doesn't).......I just hope they NEVER EVER are allowed into the European Union, because it would be really bad news for Democracy in Europe.

The only good thing about this film was the look of it, monochrome colours.

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cornelia123 wrote:

What a disgustingly male chauvanist sexist film this was. Seriously, these scenes were just sooooo pathetic.....SPOILERS AHEAD:

1. The son looking at the kitchen knife obviously thinking about killing his mother and lover who are in the next room. Idiot, she's cheating on your father, not YOU, so mind your damn business and GROW UP.

2. The mother ALLOWING her son to slap her and treat her with no respect. As if he even had a RIGHT to stick his nose into her business....seriously. Incredible how she didn't chuck him out of the house.

3. The son trying to keep from the father that the mother had visited the politician's office to pick up the money for the car .......as if it was SHOCKING for a woman to do something like that, you know, have business dealings with a man.

4. The pathetic woman falling for that ugly pug nosed politician just because he said some stupid little pathetic comment about him crying when he reads poetry..... [] . Most of the stupid muslim men I know seem to think that men can say this rubbish talk to women and that they will fall for it, as the pathetic woman does in this film. Get a life, only severely obese or ugly women (or just the ones with zero self esteem in general) are actually ever that desperate to believe this kind of rubbish from a sleazy man they've just met.

5. The pathetic woman getting all sexy in the bedroom for her ugly hairy husband and not saying anything when he starts treating her roughly, even leaving her with cuts and bruises. I guess he had every right to treat her like however he wanted because she was his, if he felt like it he can rape her, kill her, who cares? []

6. The pathetic woman begging her lover not to leave her, begging on her knees and clinging to his leg......please....do I need to say anyting....! ... []

7. The ever increasinigly pathetic woman even ACTUALLY sittiing on the balcony edge, looking at the ape (husband) to see if he GIVES HER PERMISSION to live or to die.... like as if it was up to him if she jumps or doesn't . []

By the fact that neither the ape nor the son kill the woman, were we meant to think "oh how good they were, look, they didn't kill her, she's so lucky to have such a 'modern' husband and 'son', and soooo forgiving they are too "? []

I guess the idiots had never ever heard about DIVORCE. Big deal, your wife cheats on you, you leave her and marry another woman.....like everybody in the MODERN world does. But no, that NOTION was too modern for this pathetic film. []

If this film represents modern day Turkey (and I hope it doesn't).......I just hope they NEVER EVER are allowed into the European Union, because it would be really bad news for Democracy in Europe.

The only good thing about this film was the look of it, monochrome colours.
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Thats an interesting interpretation of this film!?

Im not sure if your just incredibly ignorant and intollerant of other cultures or races?

Or if you have some severe deep seated man-hate issues? (particularly muslim men it seems).

Sure you weren't seeing what you wanted to see??

All the main characters were just normal PEOPLE like any of us, we make mistakes, have emotions and feelings we sometimes struggle to control(your post is a good example of this one:),we fall in and out of love, make sacrifices for others, often struggle to make ends meet etc etc, and I thought this film was an impressive rollercoaster ride through most of those.
Its true that different cultures have different ways of treating each other, and in some women and children or animals can be treated badly and unfairly compared to how we live now in the west, but unlike you I saw no behaviour in this film that was any worse than many American or British films.

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I think she is not ignorant of other cultures. She is just ignorant.
Everything that you say is right, but there is something else... This is fiction! If anything, this is a movie that denounces corruption, oppresion to the poor and, of course, sexism.
But obviously Hollywood confused this lady so much that she can hardly tell reality from fiction any more

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1. I disagree. The father had been in prison for however many months and the son had become the (male) head of house. If that was my mother I know I'd have been furious at the betrayal.

2. Again I disagree. Perhaps you've been raised a different way, but I'd say that it was his business.

3. I think the implication was that the father knew what type of person his boss was, and the son knew this too. Therefore he would've naturally become suspicious if he'd known.

4. I couldn't see the attraction either to be honest, especially when she was so obviously uncomfortable at first.

5. Firstly, she was getting sexy to distract his suspicions. Secondly, she probably felt guilty (which she was) so she couldn't really act like a martyr. It was hardly as though he didn't have motivations. There's little that's explicitly seen or spoken of in the film (the crash, the sex, the murder, etc. - thanks to the S&S review), the inferences and mood are what's important.

6. I also agree here. I'm sure there was more too it (like she was desperate for male company or something - this, if anything, would count as sexist as it would be the writer/director's doing), but I've yet to decide.

7. It's how to choose to read into it.

I think you're coming at this from a very naive extreme feminist perspective rather than taking the film for the complexed mess of relationships that it is. The whole story stems from the cover-up and the father's absense, not some desire to portray women as you've seen.

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Why is it that women if shown a woman who acts a certain way that they don't approve on screen take this to mean some universal derogatory statement about women? I’ve seen this more often than not, AND heard it. I’ve never met a man who after a movie showing a man who acts a certain way they don't approve saying "This director hates men!".
It’s funny.

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Please consider yourself very lucky not being able to comprehend these people's lives. Not everyone lives a perfect life like you do!

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Excuse me, "behind"?
What does behind exactly mean and behind who???

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No, actually, you can see these kinds of behaviors in real life, and the film is just portraying it.

4. The pathetic woman falling for that ugly pug nosed politician just because he said some stupid little pathetic comment about him crying when he reads poetry...... Most of the stupid muslim men I know seem to think that men can say this rubbish talk to women and that they will fall for it, as the pathetic woman does in this film. Get a life, only severely obese or ugly women (or just the ones with zero self esteem in general) are actually ever that desperate to believe this kind of rubbish from a sleazy man they've just met.


I found that comment extremely chauvinist and sexist. "Only severely obese or ugly women ..." like, REALLY?

please.

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so when somebody is fu**ing ur mum it's your father's honor not yours?
u poor bast*rd.
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You mean the characters were sexist, that doesn't make the film sexist. Still, most of what you have written is idiotic.



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Hmm. The first thing to remember is that having sexist characters does not make a film sexist.

That being said my feeling is that the director sees the world in a very patriarchal way and that is very boring. He probably thinks he is not a sexist because he depicts sexism. But the main female character in this film is pathetic and a martyr. It very much feels like a female character only a man could write.

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