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No Oscar nomination, but The Help got 4


There were a lot of movies that didn't get nominated this year that should have and many films (and actors) that didn't deserve to be nominated that were. But I just wanted to say I think it's a shame Pariah got nothing while "The Help" got 4 nominations. Some might say it's wrong to compare the two but I don't.

The Help is based on book but is not realistic and does a disservice to the plight of African-Americans during that time period. Pariah is very realistic but deals with issues that many people are probably not comfortable discussing. I was not surprised that the Academy heaped praise on the movie that resembles a history lesson mixed with fantasy as opposed to a story that could really happen. Last year I don't any films with African-American leads being nominated and even though Precious was nominated in 2009 it didn't win a lot of the categories it deserved.

It seems like the Academy has decided that since they gave Halle Berry and Denzel Washington Oscars they can ignore important Black films from now on, and that is a real shame.

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It's really ridiculous!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JUjowg3rAg

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Yes it is, and sad!

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Yes, it is a joke but Hollywood LOVES the black stereotypical films like The Help, The Butler, 12 Years A Slave. Pariah is a wonderful film that goes BEYOND RACE and discusses an issue ignored in the black community which is black lesbians.

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I never said it was new, I just pointing out that it's wrong.

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Does anyone even watch The Academy Awards anymore? They're such BS. The SAME mediocre actors get nominated year after year, while newcomers get mostly ignored. I wouldn't even care if I were a REAL actor, like the entire cast in this film. The fact that Halle Berry has one must mean that they don't require any actual acting ability.

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Hahaha, the Academy is just absurd at this point. It's gotten to the point where it is no longer "Oh, maybe their opinions are different than mine." The only shame is that it could be used to expose all of the great films made every year (Like this one) to the mainstream public, but is instead used to boost DVD sales of already well known movies.

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You are over-thinking this waaayyy too much.

"I was not surprised that the Academy heaped praise on the movie that resembles a history lesson mixed with fantasy as opposed to a story that could really happen"

--> Uh, Inglorious Basterds... Pulp Fiction... The Dark Knight... Lord of the Rings... Silence of the Lambs. All these movies, and more, are not truly based in reality. Yet, they received critical acclaim and recognition.
The Help never declared itself a historical account... it simply used a setting. And the acting & direction in The Help was top notch. It's that simple.
There's no need to try to wrap up some type of ethnic plight lost or hidden with these awards. Its the Oscars... not the Nobel.

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It seems like the Academy has decided that since they gave Halle Berry and Denzel Washington Oscars they can ignore important Black films from now on, and that is a real shame.


several blacks have gotten oscars since halle and denzel won.

forest whitaker
jennifer hudson
jamie foxx
morgan freeman
monique


several critically acclaimed "white" movies have been ignored by the academy as well. its not always about race.

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To me, you can't expect every indie picture, especially without backing from an Academy member like Precious did with Oprah, to really become known enough to get to the Academy Awards.

Like the Grammys, to get nominated you have to either have the right backers, or have to been financially successful. Not only is it rare for a African-American "real" film to come out, but it's rare that it is successful.

The Help for me, may have been half-hearted and expelled the real darkness of the subject matter, but it did get people talking. Also, as Viola Davis said, the black community is so often so worried about the image and message, they forget the execution.

Tyler Perry is a example of this. Yearly he releases at least one picture and yeah he has his usual christian values, and does try to portray a image within some Madea movies of some real life, but the execution never comes off as something really to be praised for he brings in the comic relief.

And on that note: Whoopi Goldberg's win for "Ghost" was a sad attempt to make up for The Color Purple.
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I can't wait to see the day when people finally understand that being a good movie is not enough to get an Oscar nomination. Google "FYC campaigns" and see how much money it takes to be nominated then do the maths and you'll see why it takes HUGE indie movies to even make it to Oscar time.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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