Ugh. - Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (2022) Discussion

[–] Satan2016 (23265) 3 years ago

You're not a Star Trek fan if you gave up after TOS!

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[–] Bercilak (300) 3 years ago

lol

You're not a Star Trek fan if you *didn't* give up after the original.

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I grew up on TOS. When I was a kid, there was no cable TV. We got Star Trek out of Channel 11 NY as reruns. I've seen every TOS at least a hundred times each over the last 50 plus years.

Next Gen was/is a fabulous program and as good and often better than the original series. What puts TOS over the top for me is simply the character Spock - one of the best episodic TV characters ever created. I watch either show when on TV.

I generally liked both Enterprise and Voyager well enough to see them maybe twice each. I could never get into Deep Space Nine because the filming is too dark and depressing. I mean, in the 24th century they didn't have decent lights? The suicide rate on that space station must have been staggering.

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[–] Enigmaticocean77 (2120) 3 years ago

Hey man, I got Star Trek out of channel 11 NY reruns too. I have some of those airings saved from VHS to digital files.

I can't agree about Next Gen being better than TOS, but I still enjoyed Next gen sometimes.

I really enjoyed Deep Space nine. I still have a VHS tape of its original airing, but I get what you are saying about the lighting. I'm thinking that the producers/directors of that show went with a dimmer lighting scheme in order to make it feel more claustrophobic so the viewer would feel like they were on the ship too.

I really liked Voyager once the show became about the Doctor and Seven. Their interaction with one another was really good.

I only saw an episode or two of Enterprise. The theme song killed it for me. I just couldn't get passed it.

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[–] Satan2016 (23265) 2 years ago

You're a pathetic troll.
Stick to the TOS board or I'll report you!

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[–] Bercilak (300) 2 years ago

Report me for what? Prizing originality over lazy, derivative cash grabs?

Piss off, turd.

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[–] TrentnQuarantino (8391) 2 years ago

> You're not a Star Trek fan if you gave up after TOS!

That is what trolling is, troll.
You do it with almost every single comment you make here.
You don't understand human interaction or communication any
better than you see to grok Star Trek.

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[–] TrentnQuarantino (8391) 2 years ago

If you watched the sequel series with equal gusto to the original - you have no idea what Star Trek really was about.

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[–] trevorh321 (5495) 3 years ago

I am a big fan of TOS and this Strange New Worlds is the first Trek series I remember where I genuinely feel optimistic. But it's also probably the last new Trek series I will try.

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

You don't like 1990s Star Trek beginning with TNG?

I don't like the inclusive crap started in 2009 with the Abrams shit, but I love all the stuff that came before.

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[–] BourbonKing (5612) 2 years ago

The 80s and 90s adaptations were pretty solid and in tempo with the times. Today's versions feel like MTV/theCW collaborated and decided to market the entire franchise to Non-Binary teenagers from urban NYC metro thus the over-abundance of ethnic, Latino-looking actors at all levels. It really doesn't flow naturally and if you're going to be inclusive then make up for it by casting some middle-aged Mexican American, Native American and Asian American actors with years of experience, instead they cast soft-looking urban teenagers.

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[–] RealInfinitum (424) 2 years ago

I look forward to watching Star Trek. Didn't care for the ultra violence of Picard or the coked up fast and furious style of the last movie though.

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[–] DoctorThirteen (10138) 2 years ago

Honestly, the more I hear about Picard the less I want to see it.

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[–] TrentnQuarantino (8391) 2 years ago

Give it a chance. There is always the chance this might be different.
I'm pretty sure it will not be very good, and I have my reasons why.
My belief is that the Star Trek original series was was too subversive
in its time, and the underlying message, weak and unsteady as it was,
was politically threatening to a Borg-like evil collective that was already
forming to take over the Earth ( of course I jest a bit ) and so Star Trek
had to be trivialized in order to quash that vision that everyone has an
equal place of respect in the future. Notice that just as Star Trek came
out the massive trend in inequality and war took over the USA. No
Federation, no IDIC, no Prime Directive.

I get you though. I remember getting my hopes up every time I saw a
new Star Trek movie, and then a new Star Trek series, and pretty much
all of them were exploitative and derivative .. merely entertaining at best.

But, what original show are you talking about? The original series debuted
in the 60's. Are you saying that you were a fan of another series or that
you were not born when the original show was playing on TV?

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[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

"But, what original show are you talking about? The original series debuted in the 60's."
Of course the OP is talking about that, he's saying that he loved TOS and hated TNG and everything else since. I hate people like that.

"and then a new Star Trek series, and pretty much all of them were exploitative and derivative .. merely entertaining at best."
That's exactly what I wanted from TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT - IMHO, this is the Golden Age of Star Trek... before the dark times, before Abrams and Kurtzman.

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[–] wrlord (1079) 2 years ago

OP is right that all the shows after TOS were less sophisticated, less literate, and less adult. TNG and, especially, DS9, had their good, even great, moments, but as a body there's TOS and there's everything else.

I've often said that the first two seasons of TNG were the worst, and the last, seasons of Star Trek.

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