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Sooooo many mixed feelings watching this


Wow, this documentary at times annoyed the s*it out of me so bad I was talking to the television. Because the movie is a documentary, I guess I was hoping for a more fact based focus. Don't get me wrong, many parts were eye-opening and informative, such as the info on Cytotec and the over scheduling of C-Sections/ mother's natural high after giving birth from oxytocin release and the importance of privacy etc. To be fair, I should let you know I'm an NICU nurse in Canada, and Canada's health care system is vastly different from that in the US. However I found some of the the things the narrator/father made comments on came out sounded soo ignorant because he seems to think he knows enough about hospital births/NICUs etc. to extrapolate wildly in order to keep everything in the theme of the documentary (hospital births are bad). For example, when the baby is lethargic and wont feed and also has a high respiratory rate, these could be signs of infection/respiratory distress etc and do warrant investigation. The midwife was obviously not comfortable waiting and recommended going to the hospital. When asked if the Father was 'mad' at the midwife, he stated a bit flippantly that he was 'sure she did what she thought was best at the time'. I wonder if the father thinks that the small amount of knowledge he has about birthing babies qualifies him to know bette than a midwife who has assisted with over 2000 births. He states that the EMT wouldn't let them sit back with Bella. Did he bother to find out why? Did he bother to inquire as to if there are safety/seating concerns when transporting a potentially ill baby to hospital that the EMT is the only one allowed back with the baby so they can focus on her? When the baby is admitted to the NICU, you can see the nurses putting nasal prongs to deliver oxygen to the infant and then you later see the baby with a CPAP mask on her face. Babies are not placed on oxygen or CPAP unless they are experiencing respiratory distress. When babies with respiratory distress are admitted, it is recommended not to 'over-handle' them in order to let their respiratory rate settle out, which may explain why the Mom only held her 3 times in 24 hours. You also wouldn't feed a newborn experiencing respiratory distress because the effort of feeding increases their work of breathing and food in their belly put more strain on their lungs by pushing them upward and can increase their work of breathing as well. This is why Bella would have been poked for an IV so that she could still be hydrated/nourished even if she couldn't eat yet. The Dad was all like "i had to watch as they poked her with needles and missed the vein, then missed the vein again" which as a parent i'm sure is devastating, but you get the impression that he thinks he could do a better job. He obviously has never had to insert a needle into a baby's tiny vein-the veins are very fragile and often 'blow' no matter how skilled you are at inserting the needle. He's like, "we had a really hard time handling the staff" and told a story of the nurse wanting to hold the baby instead of the parents. I may sound a little defensive here but I have NEVER seen that happen. As soon as the baby is well enough, the first person to hold the baby would be the mother/father. I have never seen a nurse try and cuddle the parent's baby while the parents are available to hold him/her. The only thing I can think of is if the nurse had to hold the infant for a procedure/xray or lift the baby up to clean her bed. This sounds unlikely to me and it seems more likely that the father misunderstood the nurses intentions. Bella is also shown receiving a dose of an IV antibiotic. She would be started on that because of the fast breathing and/or signs of infection from the bloodwork they did on her. The father states that the baby was held for 3 days for "observation" once again implying that he knows better and that perhaps it was unneccesary. Babies aren't held in the NICU for 3 days simply for observation. Babies aren't started on CPAP/oxygen/IV antibiotics for "observation". It is clear to me just from watching the footage that Bella had some respiratory distress because there's no way they would have been started her on CPAP otherwise. I am sorry the parents felt that communication with staff was lacking, that is truly unfortunate. Throughout the whole documentary though, the parents (especially the father/narrator) come across as cocky know -it -alls that take the small amount of knowledge they have and generalize it to everything else. Plus, all the men talking about the importance of not using drugs during labour made me wanna puke. The doctors/nurses made good points about the risks, but I find it extremely maddening to hear a man talk about 'natural childbirth' being the only way to go and how it's not even supposed to hurt that much. That's like me pretending to know what it feels like to be kicked hard in the balls. Oh, except how about experiencing excrutiating ball kicking pain for 12-18 hours. I rolled my eyes so much during this movie I thought they may roll right out of my head. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and the douche narrator should keep that in mind instead of trying to pass himself off as an expert.

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You make so many good points. I was so annoyed by the end of this film. (And I'm a vowed homebirth advocate.) The experts interviewed for this film are clear about the hazards of medicated, managed labor, but the filmmaker and his wife drove me nuts. I thought the end of the movie was extremely manipulative, and listening to the filmmaker complain about the hospital staff (who may have saved the life of his daughter, for all he knows) made me feel bad for the staff! It's apparent that the current trends in U.S. maternity care are troubling -- but their daughter was in obvious distress in the hospital. I don't know how a father can rhapsodize about his responsibility to protect his wife and child one minute and be so flippant about the care his sick daughter received in the next. I'm not saying he should pledge eternal gratitude or anything,, but COME ON. It's almost as though he absorbed so much of the negativity surrounding hospital-centered birth that he couldn't even allow himself to believe that the medical professionals in the NICU saved his daughter's life. He's a douche and his wife is a narcissist and they deserve each other.

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Agreed.Too self righteous and There are pros and cons to everything so sure women were having babies long before hospitals and drugs and blah blah but they were also dying a lot more too and so were the babies. the midwife felt the baby needed to go to the hospital, and he was just a total ass.

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I agree with all of you. I watched this today in hopes to get some ideas on handling a pregnancy, hopefully soon. What I ended up getting was a totally one-sided opinion piece from some pompous a-hole with some major jealousy issues. There are risks to home birth, same as hospital birth, but I don't recall hearing any of those. Sure women have given birth naturally for centuries, but what were the infant and mother mortality rates back then? The one thing he did accomplish was making a home birth seem like a piece of cake, yet we never saw Mandy's worst moments during the birthing process. Just a handful of still photos and the husband's biased play-by-play. Perhaps if Mandy HAD been at a hospital, the wrapped umbilical cord would have been found earlier, before it put the baby's life at risk, possibly saving her that 7-day stay in the NICU. I was relieved to see their baby girl was okay, but his behavior at the hospital was juvenile and ungrateful. I think he even admitted the hospital staff saved Bella's life, but it seemed he couldn't get over the fact that he couldn't be a "hero" and had to step aside for a couple days. And that hospital bill for $21K? Was that the actual bill, or the insurance claim that was submitted to the insurance company? Big difference.

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