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I enjoyed the movie but I still don't understand why Mr. Myun wanted to kill the professor and what Mr. Kim had to do with the professor.
And what was that scene with the professor's wife at the bank about ?

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Professor's wife hired Mr. Myuan [via her lover (guy from the bank- Kim Jung Hwan)] to kill her husband. Probably because professor had a affair with Mr. President's(Tae-won Kim)mistress or/and she wanted his money.

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She hired with her lover two guys to kill our protagonist because he told her that he'll find out who killed her husband. Probably she talked with Kim Jung Hwan about next moves or something.

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Thank you, much appreciated !

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Hi,
Can u give a detailed explanation of the plot of the Korean version? Thanks.

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The banker hired the waiter who in turn hired Myun (and ultimately the job fell on Gunam’s lap) to kill his client/lover (the affair is not established)'s husband, the professor.
You can hear it all from the waiter himself who was tortured in the Mr. Kim's basement.

The banker was either in love or having affair with the professor's wife.
So he wanted to have the professor killed and mentioned it to the waiter who arranged the hit.

The bank scene implies the professor's wife and the banker were NOT having affair.
They were acting too formal and no body languages or gestures whatsoever to imply they were no more than regular banker/client.

I don’t think the banker and the professor's wife was having affair, or professor's wife was involved with the hit in any way.


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the subs on the copy i saw must have been off, because it seems i lost a lot in translation...i dont understand why Mr Myun wanted Gunam killed after he gets the professor's finger...he sent him to do the job, 2 other dudes do it, but its all the same, he gets the finger, was he a loose end? i love Korean movies, but i was lost for parts of this one...Mr Myun was an awesome baddie!

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There is a scene between the mob boss/bus company owner, Kim Tae Won and his henchman Choi, where he asks him if it was the Chauffeur who did it. { They might've hired the Chauffeur to do the hit }. Choi says he's not sure. Guess the President thought that the Chauffeur revealed something to Goo Nam, since Goo Nam's the prime suspect now, and starts going after him.

My understanding was it was pure business for Myun. In conversation with the bus owner, Myun says nobody crosses between China and Korea without him knowing about it. What's this kid doing in Busan? something like that.. {That they are after Goo Nam must've been revealed by Choi to Myun in that hotel room in China. This also threatens Myun's existence} Myun might've initially thought of a quick buck, based on his threats of spreading rumors about Kim Tae Won. He could also get rid of Goo Nam for a price from Kim Tae Won
Myun, later realizes that if he just goes back to China, then everybody'll remain happy. But Kim Tae Won attacks their gang later that night and this leads to the climax. I also realize now that Kim Tae Won only realizes that Myun organized the hit with Goo-Nam, after this attack while interrogating a waiter in the basement. He must've thought that Myun was just blackmailing him before.

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Great questions and answers. I really loved the movie and the way it was made.

However I must have had some bad subs because there are a few things that didn't came across. I was wondering about his (Kim Jung Hwan's) wife. I thought that finding the wife was somewhat of a "side-plot". He paid the neighbor to keep the wife at the apartment if she showed up. He also interrogated the guy with the truck, which was later found guilty of killing a woman, which MAY have been his wife?! Because the guy that went to the morgue (who was he by the way?) was not sure if she was his wife because of the state she was in right? So it means that she actually could be alive? And did she have an affair? The visions were just in his mind and how he was imagining the possible affair..?

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There is a scene towards the end where Goo-Nam's wife gets off a train, in China I guess.. I think this scene comes in between the final credits in the director's cut, though I didnt catch it.. In the Theatrical cut it comes before the final credits.
The guy who went to the morgue might have been a broker with a funeral home, since Goo-nam couldnt go into the morgue, as she was murdered and the cops could be there.
I couldnt really grasp if Goo-Nam's wife was having an affair except for Goo-Nam's suspicion that she was drove him to take up the job.

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The key point here is that there were two separate parties who wanted to kill the professor: there was Gunam and the chauffeur (who actually killed the professor). Gunam was hired by Mr. Myun, who was hired by the waitor, who was hired by the banker who knows/has an affair with (it is not entirely clear) the professor's wife. The chauffeur was hired by Mr. Kim Tae Won, the mob boss, who wanted to kill the professor because the professor had an affair with his wife (which he mutters while he is dying on the floor).

When the professor is killed, Kim Tae Won asks Choi whether it was the chauffeur or Gunam who killed the professor, and Choi doesn't know. Kim Tae Won wants to kill Gunam because Gunam is now a loose end who knows that the chauffeur was also hired to kill (which reveals his part in the killing). On the other hand, Mr. Myun cut off all communication with Gunam after the killing (probably because he didn't want to give the rest of the money), and we see that he planned to do that from the beginning when there is no boat back. Then, Mr. Myun goes after Gunam after he meets Kim Tae Won, which is when he makes a deal with Kim Tae Won to get money in return for killing Gunam. (This is realized when Mr. Myun sends Choi back to Kim Tae Won to talk about some secret plan he had, which is followed by the scene in which Kim Tae Won and Mr. Myun have the conversation about Mr. Myun knowing who goes in and out of Korea to China and Kim Tae Won giving him the money.)

Also, when Gunam searches for his wife, he finds out that the wife is with the white fish truck guy, and he even finds where she lives, but she never comes home. Then, we find out from the news on television that some guy killed a Chosunjeok woman who wanted to go back to China for her husband, and we, along with Gunam, automatically assume that that's his wife. Gunam pays the morgue guy to check if it is, and even if he can't really tell, he just tells Gunam that it is his wife. Gunam, then, has "his wife" cremated and has the ashes with him in the boat where he dies. However, the last scene suggests that his wife did come back for him to China and was not actually killed.

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Great answer. I had to read it a couple of times to get it. Thank you for clarifying.

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Why would those guys go after Gu-Nam if the banker wasn't having an affair with his wife? Because Gu-Nam told the wife that he was going after whoever hired him.So she would have had to tell the banker for him to get those guys to try and kill him.






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Although I liked the movie, I must admit that it seems too long and with a few flaws in the script.

After the professor was killed, I do not see any rational possibility that there is contact between Mr. Mjun and Kim Tae Won. Nor did they know each other, nor were they informed that they were both commissioned by the professor's murder. Yes, GuNam has been witness to the professor's killer driver, but is it realistic to expect that his testimony in the police was taken seriously and to correlate the chauffeur and Kim Tae Won as a customer? In addition, Kim Tae Won "right hand" in a very strained way, concluded that GuNam brought to Korea via Mr. Mjun. So, in some kind of blackmail context,this seems a bit pointless.

As far as women GuNam death, at first glance one might think you're right and that we really fooled everyone. Only, you forget one thing - a man who was arrested for the murder is actually the same one who was beaten by GuNam. It seems too big coincidence that he killed another female, especially if we bear in mind violently ransacked apartment in which he was GuNam.

Further, I think that the role of police is very superficial shown (among other things we do not know the fate of the chauffeur killers, not questioned by the police).

Finally, GuNam promised professor's widow to kill the patrons. However, he didn't killed the banker.

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The wife was most certainly alive at the end. Gu-Nam has a flash back of her leaving on the train to go to South as he dies on the boat but once the credits roll for 5 seconds we see her returning to the North on a train. I think a lot of people turned the movie off before seeing this important scene.

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I agree with your analysis of the film.I too had the same conclusions.The plot's really messy.
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Who is the girl in the bank, at the end of the movie? Those Asian girls looks all the same to me.

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She's the Professor's wife.

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who played tae won's bit on the side? she was very interesting looking.

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To me the scene represents Gunam bringing his wife back home, with her ashes. It's merely symbolic in his dying thought

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"the main character finds a picture of his son in that room she was in. "

I's actually his daughter not his son.

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Thx. And do u remember the scene just before Kim (suit man)'s crew comes to kill Myun? Myun goes to bed after eating bones with his crew and suddenly remembers sth, and calls Choi to tell his boss (Kim - suit man) to come. What was he thinking?

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