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Did she......(spoilers)

posted 9 years ago by bluemagicmist
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return to kidnap Phil's daughter, to finish him off, or to get him to take her to the ringleader?

Not a bad movie, it certainly held my interest till the end. Some of it didn't make sense though, like Ronnie was in on it too?
Did he film Eve and her sister for the ringleader, but changed his mind and wanted Eve as his girlfriend but the kidnapping still went ahead without his knowledge. He searched for her but also held a girl captive like Phil, who had a wife and child. All these men lead a double life?

[–] e1619087 9 years ago

Hi, i like to think she went back to get more info from him tell the wife what he had been involved in then the wife shoots him they hide the body and in the sequel the girl goes after the ringleader and his crew. i think ronnie was the original kidnapper because he seemed a bit creepy and the pictures she found looked like the flashbacks where he was filming her,also he had no reason to be in that house near the end.

[–] alesisqs61 9 years ago

Ronnie was the main bad guy. He'd pretend to be the boyfriend to a lot of girls, then get them kidnapped. It was all a ruse. Good flick. The green screen scenes in the van could have been avoided but other than that....solid story.

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[–] rupert-ian 9 years ago

I wouldn't call Ronnie the "main" bad guy. We never saw the "main bad guy"

IMO, Ronnie was getting paid to go out and flirt with girls, take video of them, then the "main" bad guy who we never saw, would use the vids/pics as advertisement to his clients. I'm guessing people would make offers to buy the women, then the kidnapping would happen.

Looks like some were sold off, and some were just kept in the same place and "rented out"

Like the Phil said in the end, something about this being "much bigger than you and me"

Phil was the zookeeper
Ronnie found the girls

Someone else was running the whole thing.

[–] qfal 9 years ago

Her telling the wife what he had done would be the least of his problems. I think she decided to go in and finish him off.

[–] rstrack89-563-999561 8 years ago

I actually think Phil was the "main villain" so to speak in this. He lied in almost every scene when he was begging for his life or to be brought to the hospital. His mother died after five years with cancer; untrue because the voice-mail from his wife said your mother called again. Telling Eve he never touched any of the girls; also untrue as when the two guys were walking up the stairs in the third house they wondered why his van was there (maybe peak in the window,) and that he always had first crazy k at the new girls. I think without them blatantly saying he was in charge all those little details pointed to him being the mastermind to it all.

[–] mec_os 8 years ago

plus the tall guy said, "you are the boss"

[–] pennilayne 8 years ago

He was already begging her not to tell his family anything or call the cops. He said I will give you all my contacts and addresses where other girls are, everything you need to save other people just don't tell my family. So I assume in the car before we see him on his porch, he gave all that to her. Which is why she smiled.

Then she realized how pissed off she was about how not compassionate and evil he was about her sister dying in the basement with her, and probably went back to tell his family what a piece of shi* he is and call the police.

[–] Asweetpoem101-1 8 years ago

As Ronnie said "It's not personal," what does that tell you? If it wasn't personal, then she meant nothing to him.

I think she would have at least killed his wife! Phil killed her sister and sexually abused or allowed these women to be sexually abused. She wanted vengeance, wouldn't this be the ultimate thing she could do, to take out his family?

[–] bswanson-59591 8 years ago

I dont think she would kill the wife, she knows she knew nothing, she told the wife what he had done and maybe called the cops

[–] disinter 8 years ago

Hope I don't get slack for this but I had a much darker interpretation. For whatever reason she let him live but it seemed through the flashbacks and facial cues that she was on the fence about that decision then it seemed as though she resolved herself to go back and make him pay for every bit of it and then some. I think that she crossed that line and actually murdered them both in front of him. She realized her need for vengeance outweighed her compassion for innocent people.

[–] DisturbedPixie 8 years ago

It's better revenge to turn his family against him. If they die thinking he is a victim of this crazed woman, he dies knowing his family loved him and he at least never killed a child like Eve did.

Killing them just turns her into a monster. Then he'd be right about her being a murderer. No, revenge never ends in an innocent dying. that's just pointless and evil. Eve could still get away with everything if she just kills the kidnappers/rapists and Laura in self defense. Then she serves her sister's memory well

[–] dayvit78 8 years ago

I'm glad they left it open to allow each person to guess what actually happened.

However, the evidence points to NOT murdering him or his wife and daughter. If you look at the blood on her face when she was last in the van and after when she was walking down the street, it's about the same. It even has the same streak down the left side of her face. If the director wanted us to think she did kill more people, he likely would have shown much more blood on her.

[–] SarahJConnor 8 years ago

this was my take as well.

imo

[–] nepentheberyl 8 years ago

I think she kidnapped his daughter. He took her sister, she took his daughter. A fair trade. She could take care of her in ways she couldn't for her sister. And he would have (supposedly) his most precious thing taken from him, and he wouldn't know what happened to her. And he knows the horrible things that happen to females...

Its the sudden focus at the end on the girl who got kidnapped actually having been her sister, and the focus on the child rather than the wife or the basterd when she comes back. And the way she seems like she's reaching for the girl. She felt guilty through the whole thing because she couldn't keep her sister alive, not because she killed the other girl to survive. She had the chance to...protect this girl from the knowledge of the sins of her father. Keep her innocent, where her involvement with Ronnie had dragged the innocence out of her sister.