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Jack White in 'It Might Get Loud' reminds me of..


..That guy in college who raises his hand during a lecture not to ask a question, but to insert his thoughts. You’re taking notes, processing the lecture in your head, and then he raises his hand to tell the professor and the class, “Oh, isn’t it interesting how...?” or, “Well, I believe that...”

You don’t necessarily dislike him, but it gets annoying when he does it every single time. He’s genuinely interested in the lecture, but it doesn’t mean the rest of us need to hear how much he’s into it. He can’t help himself, though. He’s pretentious, but he’s not completely rude, either.

He’s the kind of guy that isn’t even going to try to form a study group. He’s going to study alone, and everyone else in his class is okay with it, because 1) they don’t want to hear him editorialize and 2) he’d probably micromanage the study group. He

And if you value his knowledge, you’ll go ask him for help on something, but he’s going to give you a detailed answer (like when Jack’s talking about strings he uses, or how “technology is a destroyer”)....way more detailed than you actually needed. He does it partly because he wants to show off, and he does it partly because he wants to help you, and he thinks by giving you every tiny detail– even the ones you didn’t ask for– he’s doing you a favor.

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Agree

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I agree, but that doesn't mean that to succeed we must also criticize the methods of others, or ostracize ourselves from our peers just because we believe we are the best.

I didn't see The Edge or Jimmy Page poo poo on technology. But I'm sure they know they're great.

His attitude at times seemed to be, "Oh, that's how you do it, okay...Well, my way is great, because....." and he would make sure to tell us why he plays that way and not the other way. It's okay- I respected his opinions because he really did know what he was talking about- but he seems to kind of go out of his way to be different, just to be different. I found it ironic, because there he was jamming out with The Edge, who didn't go out of his way to be the player he is today. He was just different from the get-go, and then Jack White kind of criticizes his methods, and inserts his thoughts on why he's not like that.

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I wasn't totally bothered by it, and I loved this movie a lot. But Jimmy and Edge did not give off that kind of attitude, as if they were backed into a corner and had to fend for themselves. Maybe it's because Jack White is much younger than the three, and he felt like he had to do more to contribute to the conversation.

Music-wise, I prefer Jack White to The Edge (and Jimmy Page over both), because I'm a blues guitar appreciator, but as far as guitar players that I have respect for...The Edge gets it over Jack. Even though the music he plays is different from the one I play, he's still a lover of the guitar and what it can do. I can relate to that. And I don't think he's not completely relying on technology. To be able to get that sound (that he pretty much invented), he's got to design it with his effects, or whatever it is he does.

Jack White, I feel like I could sit in a room with him and jam, play a 12-bar blues, and he'd sit there and try to outdo me, or tell me what I'm doing wrong. Whatever happened to feeling it, and just going with it?

And I know that Jack White very well could outdo me. It wouldn't even take one chord. And I would love to hear him outdo me on the guitar, but still...I feel like he'd rub it in, lol.

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OMG!!! To put a guitar player that has to use 2 or 3 MASSIVE, GIANT trunks of effects to make playing ONE CHORD over and over and over and over again sound good over the guy that has been praised as the savior of rock and roll by not only critics, but legendary musicians as well is LUDICROUS !!! Unbelievable !!!

At his VERY young age,comparatively, he has been invited to collaborate with musicians as diverse as Bob Dylan, Jeff Beck, Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top The Rolling Stones, Loretta Lynn, Beck, Ricky Skaggs, The Greenhornes, The Strokes, Alicia Keys, most of them many times over. Even in comedy sketches with Conan O'Brien, Tim Meadows and John C. Reilly. LOL. Plus he's a great lyricist, drummer, piano player and to many more instuments to list. He always makes each song, band (Racontuers and Dead Weather as well) and album new and unique while always pushing the envelope. And if you can watch him joyously singing and playing "Loving Cup" with Mick and Keith in that Stones documentary/concert film "Shine A Light" by Scorcese without being moved, you're dead inside and your heart is made up of dead, dried out spiders.

The guy was a legend before the age of 30, while The Edge keeps putting out that same ol', one chord, cookie-cutter, monster-arena corporate rock for the sheep-filled masses who don't know any better. LAME !!!!!

Oh, and Page is still a bad-ass cat almost 50 years after his start as a session guy in England back in the day. Legend.

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I thought the whole idea of inviting Jack to join in this doc was to hear what he had to say (and play). Seems very odd to criticize him for doing just that.

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Has it ever occurred to you that many of these collaborations are merely cynical corporate ploys to re-brand established artists and provide some name recognition for new products like White?

The President of the Immortals had ended his sport with Tess

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You're joking, right?

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No, and no again to your second post.

The President of the Immortals had ended his sport with Tess

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Have you seen this film?

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Only for its mere novelty.

The President of the Immortals had ended his sport with Tess

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Then you either didn't understand it or are just being deliberately provocative.

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Perhaps you just can't handle an inconvenient truth.

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Now I get it. You're still angry about the director's LAST doc.

This movie has nothing to do with product placement. If that's what you truly get out of it, you are a very sad person. (My guess is, you actually know better, but are just on attack mode for reasons that have little to do with the doc itself.)

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Comrade Poster, just because Rush and I both share a penchant for recreational OxyContin, Viagra, and the occasional Dominican sex vacation doesn't necessarily mean we hold the same political views about climate change or the world in general--why, he may even be a Jack White fan.

But let's take a moment and break down your argument with a little help from our good old friend, Karl. The theatre shouldn't have charged me if this wasn't about enhancing the capital (human or otherwise) beneath its product. Though you may have convinced yourself that you received some benefit for your coin, I think we know who reaped the most value. No one invests or labors for free. Even I derive something from educating you.

The President of the Immortals had ended his sport with Tess

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The product they were selling was the product you watched. Ease up on the drugs and maybe you and Rush won't imagine conspiracies where they aren't.

But still, keep your eye out for all us commies. We're EVERYWHERE!

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Nothing says conspiracy (or homeschooling) like all caps.

The President of the Immortals had ended his sport with Tess

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Nothing says pretentious (or public school drop-out) as a guy who has to end his every post with a Hardy quote.

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I assume you finally got around to Googling it. Good show, old chap--there's nothing like a spot of the sporting Immortals in the morning...

The President of the Immortals had ended his sport with Tess

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Nah. Like all the other illiterates out here who aren't you, BS-2, I just watched the Polanski movie.

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Yet another sound argument to have audience members pre-screened prior to screening.

The President of the Immortals had ended his sport with Tess

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I was on the Vault for the first two payment periods.. I've been laid off work for almost 10 months now so I started cutting back on a few things. The Vault had to go. I couldn't really justify the cost to my slightly better half.

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..That guy in college who raises his hand during a lecture not to ask a question, but to insert his thoughts. You’re taking notes, processing the lecture in your head, and then he raises his hand to tell the professor and the class, “Oh, isn’t it interesting how...?” or, “Well, I believe that...”

You don’t necessarily dislike him, but it gets annoying when he does it every single time. He’s genuinely interested in the lecture, but it doesn’t mean the rest of us need to hear how much he’s into it. He can’t help himself, though. He’s pretentious, but he’s not completely rude, either.

He’s the kind of guy that isn’t even going to try to form a study group. He’s going to study alone, and everyone else in his class is okay with it, because 1) they don’t want to hear him editorialize and 2) he’d probably micromanage the study group. He

And if you value his knowledge, you’ll go ask him for help on something, but he’s going to give you a detailed answer (like when Jack’s talking about strings he uses, or how “technology is a destroyer”)....way more detailed than you actually needed. He does it partly because he wants to show off, and he does it partly because he wants to help you, and he thinks by giving you every tiny detail– even the ones you didn’t ask for– he’s doing you a favor.


That is a really strong comparison. Jack White was specifically pursued for this documentary by its producer (and creator) Thomas Tull, who is a guitar fanatic and huge fan of Jack White. Producers Leslie Chillcott, Thomas Tull, and director Davis Guggenheim told the press that Jack White was in their best-case scenario group of elite players to star in the film because they love how Jack White's opinions, technique, approach, and personal story contribute to the mix with The Edge and Jimmy Page. When Jimmy Page was asked by the moderator of the movie's press conference at the Toronto International Film Festival why he agreed to do this project, Page said that talking about the guitar "with Jack and The Edge" was a "fascinating prospect". The two deciding reasons why Jimmy Page agreed to be in this documentary was the ability to discuss the guitar with Jack and The Edge, and because he felt pretty confident that Davis Guggenheim would do the project correctly. The Edge did the documentary for the very same reasons. At the TIFF press conference, both Jimmy Page and The Edge (especially The Edge) praised Jack White multiple times. The mutual respect, admiration, and affection between White, Page and The Edge was very obvious. If you look at the documentary's special features, you can watch Jack White, Jimmy Page and The Edge jam to "Seven Nation Army" after Page asks Jack to talk about how he created it and The Edge asks Jack if he will show them how to play it. That is a really fun scene to watch.

So yeah, I guess Jimmy Page, The Edge, both executive producers and the director would agree with you.

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Gotta completely disagree and agree with loungelizard5000, it looks to me like it's Edge who is out of his element here. You can tell when they all try to pick up each other's songs (much of it on the special features) that he is the guitar and musical lightweight of the group. This is not to slight his accomplishments, he is one of the two drivers of one of the greatest bands ever, it's just that he is not even close to being in the league of White or Page (and in the latter case, who is?) *as a guitar player*.

What Edge is is a guy who has been revolutionary in the use of special effects to create sounds, kind of like some of the synth guys who were not in the musical league of great piano players but who nevertheless advanced rock by the use of technology. I would also compare it to those who have successfully and innovatively used technology to "improve" their voices but cannot compare to the great raw vocalists.

The basic difference is, they could be taught to do what he does, but he could never be taught to do what they do.

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I was dissapointed Dave Gilmour wasn't in this movie... he seems like the perfect mix between page and edge.

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I agree with the original post.

I had the distinct feeling that Jack White was the correct answer to the "Which one of these does not belong" question.

I also had the feeling that the director had a struggle trying to come up with a name for the teenagers and twenty something crowd. Jack White seems to be a forced choice and clearly out of his league. But there really isn't anybody else from the 1990s and 2000s that is an obvious choice.

Clearly there really hasn't been a stadium group since U2 (which was formed in 1976).

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... Willy Wonka

It is kinda funny when he's saying he's happy to play broken guitars that cant be tuned and the other two are thinking thats the dumbest thing theyve heard all day.

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And perhaps in their lifetimes as musicians!

The President of the Immortals had ended his sport with Tess

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That's pretty much it. The guy is talented, but also obnoxious as *beep*. Too full of himself.

Language! The thing that means stuff.

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