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Which of these three doesn't belong?


That was my first impression when I heard about this film. Jack White? Really?

I finally saw the film yesterday.

Guitar players are notorious for trashing other guitar players, even very successful players. As a 56 year-old semi-pro guitarist, I try not to do that now. Jack White has had a lot of success (drastically more than I'll probably ever have) and I say more power to him. Having said that, I don't really get him as a guitarist, but that may say more about me than about him. I thought he had an abrasive, obnoxious attitude in parts of the film.

But I am a lot older than much of his fan base. For all I know he is this generation's Jimmy Page (or Jimi Hendrix or Duane Allman or...)

I enjoyed the Edge explaining how he uses technology to get his sound. Like him or not (I do), his sound has influenced a lot of people.

Then there was Jimmy. Aging well. Sounding good. Pronounced guitar "gee-tahr." Heh.

What the hell, I mostly enjoyed the film. Some good playing, good tales, nice quitars. Who knows, if Jack White ever comes to town, I might go to his show with an open mind. It could happen.

dbs

("You kids get off my lawn!")

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I love Jack White. Listen to Little Ghost or Black Jack Davey.

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Jack White will be known as a one hit wonder in 10 yrs. He had no right to compare himself to these 2 (or any other) rock icons. But to the O.P. I like how you keep an open mind. Good on ya!

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They all belong. That was the point.

Everybody here was arguing for what would have been a room full of shredders. It would be like walking into a guitar shop on a Saturday afternoon when it's full of dicks who think that playing scales really fast is the same as being a good musician.

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One hit wonder? I get that you might not like his style, I don't like a lot of his stuff either, but you can't deny his success. He is only 36 and he's founded three commercially successful bands, critics love him and Rolling Stone ranks him as one of the top 100 guitarists of all time. The last 3 White Stripes albums each won the Grammy for Best Alternative Album and he won another Grammy with The Raconteurs.

How exactly is he a one-hit wonder?

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Your comment shows a sad change in our whole society. At the time Page was a young man, I doubt that he would have considered 'success' to be wealth. I am sure that he was not opposed to wealth, but that was not the reason he did what he did. The same goes for Edge.

These men are artists, and artists seek to influence the moods and mindsets of people, and also express feelings and ideas that burn inside them. They are only indirectly interested in the commercial impact of their music, once it passes the threshold where their income allows them some level of freedom and comfort. Page and Edge would take half the money they have made if they could have made double the impact on the world, and its attitudes.

Success, for an artist, is not about more money. It is about changing the world, and providing wisdom for its guidance. Artists also do not care about Rolling Stone rankings, except as stroking for their egos. Artists care most about what other artists think,not what magazines think and not even what the public thinks. The public is there to hear what they have to offer, not offer up ideas about what they want to hear. Artists are leaders, not followers.

Also, both Page and Edge contributed unique major innovations to the art of Rock Guitar. They both helped create genres that exist to this day, and are revered to this day. Artists are innovators.

Sadly, none of this seems to apply to White. For all his acclaim and commerical success, as an artist, he is a failure. He is highly successful as an entertainer, just like the hair-metal bands of the late '80s. I honestly have no idea why he was included in the film. The only theory I can think of is that a true artist of his generation would properly feel ashamed to be featured as the modern legacy of the other two, and so nobody but an arrogant poser would consider himself worthy to appear with such great men.

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I was referring specifically to the comment regarding White being a 'one-hit wonder' and provided several examples of why he is not.

I was not referring to art or changing the world.

Thanks for your insight though. I read almost two thirds of it.

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And my point is further reinforced. Glad that you have the attention span to read 2/3 of a half page of text. I know thoughts are pretentious to you, so I appreciate you gutting it out for 60 seconds or so.

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Jack White was not the odd man out here. The Edge was. All due respect to the man. If some of you would just step out of your comfort zone an listen, you might find that you actually like some of the Raconteurs' music. It's a lot closer to Zeppelin than you think. A lot of blue grass going on. He's a talented and creative musician. I don't like the White Stripes but The Raconteurs are great.

U2 have some great songs but The Edge is not a great musician. No he isn't.

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Interesting how you have forgotten that the argument was whether White is a 'one hit wonder' or not, not about you turning it around just to bash his critical acclaims and hits.

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Which hit would that be exactly?

Last I checked, he's written several songs that are widely known. Seven Nation Army obviously, but also Fell In Love With a Girl, We're Going to Be Friends, Icky Thump, Steady As She Goes.

Even if you don't like him, it is totally ridiculous to call him a "one hit wonder".

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The poster was referring more likely to quality vice quantity.

The President of the Immortals had ended his sport with Tess

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I love Conquest, it's so quirky.

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One doesn't belong, and that's not a reference to The Edge.

The President of the Immortals had ended his sport with Tess

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http://www.pastemagazine.com/blogs/lists/2011/09/25-awesome-one-hit-wonders-of-the-1990s.html?p=3
This is how I call The White Stripes a one-hit wonder (that hit being 7 nation army). The Breeders are on the above list of 25 awesome one hit wonders of the 1990's. Both Kim Deal and Tanya Donelly have done other projects. They may have even won grammys. Nonetheless, they are remembered as one hit wonders with The Breeders. Jack White is the same. Sure fans love him, but the mainstream only knows The White Stripes and only knows the one song.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_1980s_one-hit_wonders_in_the_United_States
Want more proof? Scroll thru the above website of 80's one hit wonders and you'll see some names such as Kate Bush, Emmylou Harris, Devo, Roger Daltrey, Rush, Toni Basil, Tracy Ullman, Patrick Swayze, Bruce Willis, The Psychedilic Furs, and GRATEFUL DEAD. I think it fair to say all of these acts have tons of loyal fans. Yet, they are one-hit wonders.

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Always nice to hear from someone else with her hearing intact and not suceptible to the constantly spinning weather vane of embarrassing fannish hyperbole!

The President of the Immortals had ended his sport with Tess

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This was my take on the documentary: They are three guitarists with radically different styles and approaches, so that makes the doc interesting.

Jack is the most raw in his approach, and brings a lot of drive and enthusiasm to his playing. He's a creative force, but not necessarily the best guitarist. Still a vital part of today's music with a love of Americana roots music and the blues that I appreciate him reviving. He also must've had some crazy ambition to rise out of the slums of Detroit and make something of himself--it's really depressing around there, and he didn't turn into some hater like Eminem, I totally respect that. Still, there are few of his songs that I love.

The Edge came across as the most guarded of the three and kind of a lonely guy. Maybe just a classic introvert. Still, I love his clean notes and approach. He paved the way for bands like Coldplay and XX, so I get him musically. He seems a bit control freakish though, and not much for "going with the flow."

Page is like the quintessential Reinaissance man, a joy to listen to play and even just conversing with the others. Out of the three, he seemed the youngest in spirit, which is a joy to see. You can tell he doesn't give a *beep* about the fame or money. Totally awesome individual.

So a good doc for what it was.

(not a musician, just a lover of music.)

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OK first of all they are all great guitar players, musicians and artists. My first thought upon consideration of these 3 guys was Jimmy Page...absolutely. The Edge...Sure. Jack White...WTF?

Clearly Jimmy Page is the "anchor" of the doc and after watching it I found that I had way more respect for Jack White than I did previously. I felt musically he had more in common with Jimmy as they are both inspired by the blues and seek to create rock infused blues. But thats not to say The Edge did not belong because he is inspired by punk.

And in defense of Jack White, anyone who disdains the current state of music which now is packaged and commercialized should appreciate him as unique and comparatively original.

There are very few artists these days who choose a musical path that is not pop, rap or hip-hop, so good on him.



There is No Gene for the Human Spirit.

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Good review. I agree, he seemed the youngest in spirit, when we usually associate these legends with a heavy presence and moody demeanor. It was great and as a U2 fan I aprreciated Jimmy Page the best

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The Edge did not belong. It should have been Keith Richards.

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The way I see it, they had Page to cover the 60's and 70', The Edge to transition the 80's in and Jack White to bring it up to date. That being said, I would have put Neil Young instead of The Edge. Christ, who goes around calling himself The Edge...

Neil Young defined guitar playing in the 90's, ushering in the Grunge era. Which was much more guitar driven than 80's prefab sounding u2.

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I personally think Jack White is one of the most overrated guitarists of our time, but watching a clip of Page playing Kashmir and Jack immediately playing along, even though his guitar was not the same tuning as Jimmy's really opened my eyes. Edge was completely lost and faked playing his guitar while intently watching Jack's hands for clues. The Edge is the one who doesn't belong. Listen to Pink Floyd's The Wall or The Final Cut to hear EXACTLY where the Edge got his sound. But even David Gilmour knew a song needs more that an echo effect on a palm mute! The Edge is afraid of meeting David Gilmour, and he should have been $hitting the bed meeting the guitar God Jimmy Page. I'm starting to think Edge has no concept of music theory at all.

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watching a clip of Page playing Kashmir and Jack immediately playing along, even though his guitar was not the same tuning as Jimmy's really opened my eyes. Edge was completely lost and faked playing his guitar while intently watching Jack's hands for clues


Kashmir isn't possible to be played in standard tuning, it would require a D below the low E string and the chords can't be formed with your fingers unless its retuned. So they were either A. Just playing the same frets in the wrong tuning or B. They tuned the guitars ahead of time and made it appear to be impromptu.

In addition, I'm sure The Edge could play it just fine, I could learn it visually and I hardly play guitar. The real question is what is Jimmy Page doing when The Edge is playing "I Will Follow"?

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I thought this was a docu about guitar players and they love for music and the guitar and i'm pretty sure Jack White loves to play guitar as much as the two others.

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which of these three is not like the others? the edge

jimmy & jack are both highly intuitive and complete masters of their instrument. edge is more of a sonic architect who works best in a controlled environment where he can tinker and create all those cool sounds with his fancy tech.

the opening sequence alone should show you that jack's no fluke. having seen jack white play live with the white stripes, raconteurs & dead weather, the range of his playing is amazing.

but which one doesn't belong? none of em - they all make great music in their own ways.

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@swangdb "Jack White has had a lot of success (drastically more than I'll probably ever have) and I say more power to him."

Instantaneous nomination for understatement of the year award!

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I'm 57, and a music lover, not a musician. Jack White definitely belongs in the
company of these talented musicians. He is an artist that plays music because it just flows out of him, he is an original that still advocates for vinyl as a way to connect with the music, and he is well respected by musicians from a variety of musical genre's and from various generations. Jack White has a reverence for
the craft, and as another commentator stated, Page, as a producer of this documentary likely had more than a little input on the casting of Jack White. Furthermore, I've seen him perform amongst various musicians, and he rarely tries to steal the thunder, but seems focused on contributing his art, and learning from the veterans in the industry. He writes songs prolifically, he produces, he plays in several bands that he originated, he's a performer, he's got a wonderful voice, and he's never boring or uni-directional in his compositions, not to mention all the instruments he plays well, so I don't see where you get the notion that Jack White is a one hitter.

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