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I'd like to see a sequel now that 5 years has passed.

posted 11 years ago by glanemann
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With Obama having 5 years in now and with the "Arab Spring" that was suppose to usher in good has seemed to usher in more bad, Israel and their constant defense of their nation, Syria is on fire, Gaddafi gone in Libya, 2 revolutions in Egypt now. How is the U.S. involved and how it seems Obama is taking more of a back seat to the worlds problems, yet at the same time seems to continue us in the middle east. He came into office wanting to close Gitmo and changing everything, yet 5 years later nothing has really changed at all in the war on terror. Certain countries in Africa are on fire, etc. There is so much happening in the world right now and with the U.S. we can shape and change whatever we want. Should we shaping the world anymore? Or continue to be the world police to stop the killing???

I think this film does a good job of asking decent what if's. What if we just stopped being involved in world affairs and let everyone take care of their own!?!? Would the world burn? If we let the world burn will there finally be conflicts solved? I myself cannot imagine pulling away from South Korea, Israel, or the Balkans. Also I guess I didn't know we had so many bases in Europe itself! I can see having bases in war torn areas, and areas of conflict but so many in Europe itself? Maybe it is time for them to start helping themselves, those countries that are totally capable of handling their own.

Will anyone else step up to the plate and take some of the responsibilities? I like how they show that China wants to be the next superpower to wield power over their area, but really would you want China to be a superpower and assert their ideals and values over your country with the way they are??? And now a days China's economy seems to be teetering on it's edge. The ghost cities, how they cannot keep their economy going some say.

A lot has changed in the last 5 years and I'd like to see them revisit these questions again!!!

Oh and with America's boom in oil production and natural gas, how does that factor in with us needing to involve our self with the Middle East? I know they say that that oil is a world market, but we are the one's providing security for the Middle East oil that China and everyone else benefits from. We should scale back and Asia needs to step up and help the Middle East if they are the next area of the world to benefit from oil.

Also since 2008 gas is now 3.50+ average these days. How that affect us and the world.

[–] thornsthorns 11 years ago

the answer to that is, like a typical politician, obama lied. Simple.

he lied about wanting to close gitmo, he lied about wanting to become more isolationary, he lied about everything and was and is just another bush, just smarter than that senile pensioner.

Oh and with America's boom in oil production and natural gas, how does that factor in with us needing to involve our self with the Middle East? I know they say that that oil is a world market, but we are the one's providing security for the Middle East oil that China and everyone else benefits from. We should scale back and Asia needs to step up and help the Middle East if they are the next area of the world to benefit from oil.

Actually the oil still benifits the US more than anyone else.

If you read up on petrodollar hegemony, you'll understand why. The US dollar's currency demand is propped up by oil and gas (and other of the worlds basics) being sold in dollars only. So every nations in this world has to sell its own currency even china, euro, and japan to buy dollars, and they then use those dollars to buy oil and gas.

This means the US is allowed to print as much money as it wants, and go on a spending binge buying all of the worlds resources, cheap labour etc for cents on the dollar.

If oil should stop being sold in dollars, and instead be moved to euroes of Chinese renmibis, it would be a huge boost to that nations economy and a huge disaster for the US economy. Most economists predict a massive recession and depression in the USA if the dollar stops being the worlds reserve currency, even the collapse of the dollar.

Basically say all the world would dump US dollars and buy chinese yuans. It would crash the value of the dollar, causing more nations to dump the dollar, spiralling the value of the dollar down, making it worthless, and these dollars would be dumped into the US economy. Meaning massive hyperinflation in USA. Last time hyperinflation occurred of note in west, in Germany it led to the NAZI's coming into power.

This was one of the reasons why US went to war with Saddam Hussein. He wanted to sell oil in euros and yuans. It is also why the Euro nations of France, Germany and Italy refused to back the USA, but the non-euro nation of Great Britain did back the USA.

There is a myth that china is benifiting from the oil in the middle east, that is a lie. Most western oil companies actually own the oil producing rights from those oil fields and sell the oil to china.

[–] DirtyReplicant 9 years ago

Also the reason why Syria is now in flames and russia is being ramped up as the big bad wolf again as they were thinking about their own oil currency system

Who replaced John Mclane with an out and out *beep*