I'm always curious about this type of film. Do they just film every wild animal out there and hope that it has some sort of traumatic or emotional life they can exploit or do they create the situation (a la the movie they did about lemmings)?
...Don't look now, but I think the monotremes are out to get me...
I was wondering the same thing when I saw the previews!!! I mean, did they snatch the baby chimp from his family and isolate him with an older male chimp who they had also removed from his family and hope to the heavens that the two of them would bond? Or is Disney running around and setting up hidden cameras all over the world in hopes that heartwarming stories will miraculously unfold?
shareI also want to know! Too many animals are exploited for films and then left to live miserable, desolate lives. i.e every dolphin in captivity. Glad you mentioned lemmings. so few people understand they were murdered to propagate a myth of mass suicide.
if they want to do that again i know the residents in a building in parliament they could herd off a cliff....
"Mom's gonna fix it all soon. Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it oughta be."
A British nature team filmed this.
They filmed for over a year in the deep rain forest.
They were there to film a young chimp develop in his family group.
Oscar, the 3 year chimp, mother was suddenly killed by leopard.
So Oscar reaches out to other mothers but is unsuccessful as the other mother chimps have their own young to care for.
By chance Freddy, a male leader, took him in and cared for him as his own.
That is extremely rare as usually older brother or sister cares for young when tragedy happens. Jane Goodall, the famed chimp researcher said in all her years there has only been one or two examples of non relatives adopting a young chimp.
They normally die when no relatives are available to care for them.
Freddy, the male leader, cares and protects Oscar at the expense of neglecting his own duties of patrolling the families boundaries.
If you go see it, see it in the first week as the portion of the box office goes to Jane Goodall Foundation which aides in the protection and studying of chimps in the wild.
So it was strictly happenstance?
...Don't look now, but I think the monotremes are out to get me...
Yes, and according to Jane Goodall, they had already been filming for a year before Oscar's mother died.
shareYes the fact that they captured this rare event on film was coincidence. They had been filming the "Tai Chimpanzee Project" for awhile before Oscar's mother was killed.
http://www.wildchimps.org/index.htm
Thank you SO MUCH for this answer! I adore Ms. Goodall and will go see this for sure!
"Mom's gonna fix it all soon. Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it oughta be."
Get yer facts right....
Misconceptions about lemmings go back many centuries. In the 1530s, the geographer Zeigler of Strasbourg proposed the theory that the creatures fell out of the sky during stormy weather (also featured in the folklore of the Inupiat/Yupik at Norton Sound), and then died suddenly when the grass grew in spring.[6] This description was contradicted by the natural historian Ole Worm, who accepted that lemmings could fall out of the sky, but claimed they had been brought over by the wind rather than created by spontaneous generation. Worm first published dissections of a lemming, which showed they are anatomically similar to most other rodents, and the work of Carl Linnaeus proved they had a natural origin.
When large numbers of lemmings migrate, some of them will inevitably drown while crossing rivers and lakes, like this one in Norway.
Lemmings became the subject of a popular misconception that they commit mass suicide when they migrate. It is not a mass suicide, but the result of their migratory behavior. Driven by strong biological urges, some species of lemmings may migrate in large groups when population density becomes too great. Lemmings can swim and may choose to cross a body of water in search of a new habitat. In such cases, many may drown if the body of water is so wide as to stretch their physical capability to the limit. This fact, combined with the unexplained fluctuations in the population of Norwegian lemmings, gave rise to the misconception.
The misconception of lemming "mass suicide" is long-standing and has been popularized by a number of factors. In 1955, Disney Studio illustrator Carl Barks drew an Uncle Scrooge adventure comic with the title "The Lemming with the Locket". This comic, which was inspired by a 1953 American Mercury article, showed massive numbers of lemmings jumping over Norwegian cliffs.[10][11] Even more influential was the 1958 Disney film White Wilderness, which won an Academy Award for Documentary Feature, in which staged footage was shown with lemmings jumping into certain death after faked scenes of mass migration.[12] A Canadian Broadcasting Corporation documentary, Cruel Camera, found the lemmings used for White Wilderness were flown from Hudson Bay to Calgary, Alberta, Canada, where they did not jump off the cliff, but were in fact launched off the cliff using a turntable.
Jane Goodall was just on jon stewart and explained the film crew was in the jungle on a different assignment when this event happened and of course they started filming right away and got the story without even planning it!
shareThis was my hesitation about seeing this movie. However, I saw a trailer that showed they were filming and, at one point, thought they couldn't finish the film (the trailer implied it was the point of filming when Oscar became an orphan) but then he was 'adopted' by the male chimpanzee which created a different storyline. So, it seems to be quite natural filming, and with Jane Goodall's endorsement, I look forward to seeing it.
I saw Jane Goodall in person giving a talk once. Love her, and seeing her in person is an experience I'll always treasure.
Support bill H.R. 3359 to BAN wild animals in circuses!
http://breakthechainus.com/
I just wrote a post about this wondering the same thing. I hadn't seen this thread, but you answered my question about the scenes with Oscar and his mother. I thought perhaps it was a different chimp being filmed in order to create the back story. I guess it was all coincidence that all this happened as they were filming.
shareWow! MyOp you are a person after my own heart! how exquisite an experience and thanx for sharing here! Yeah she is AMAZING! why can't people try harder to be something more than consumers of sad animals in factory farms, watchers of Dancing With the Stars and slack jawed yokels thinking shallowly through their entire lives? She is an inspiration and you are kindred indeed. I have been fighting for years to end Circus animal cruelty. Animals are not ours to eat, own or use for our entertainment.
Peace n luv
"Mom's gonna fix it all soon. Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it oughta be."
Hi chaoscoyote. Jane Goodall really is a wonderful person. It's my pleasure to mention having the opportunity to see her in person. Not as many people realize what a privilege that is as I had thought, since the time of the occasion.
IMDB is devoid of more than a few people really caring about animals, isn't it? For instance, you would think more people would actually care about animals that 'star' in movies and shows they pay to see. Some weeks ago, I checked in on the Water for Elephants board (never saw the movie, don't want to) and saw that all of the negative comments were gone about Tai being abused at Have Trunk Will Travel who 'owns' her, as are all of the elephants they rent out as money-making commodities. Even most of the people who claimed to be sad that the animals were abused in the movie didn't seem to care that Tai is being abused in real life. Very sad.
On another note, I've been extremely depressed lately about the grim news of the pending extinction of orangutans, pygmy elephants, the Sumtran tiger, and other species, due to the palm oil industry that is currently burning down their habitats. Orangutans could be extinct in the wild in as few as three years. One group of orangs in the Aceh forest there in Indonesia could become extinct in a matter of weeks. The burning of their habitat is being questioned as possibly not even being legal, yet the legal system there has still not stopped the burning as of yet.
They say elephants may be extinct in 50 years, which is awful enough, but I think it may happen sooner due to ramped up poachers backed by powerful crime syndicates from Asia. Sounds like a horrid movie, but it's reality. Half the population of an endangered group in Cameroon has been slaughtered just in the first few months of this year. Recently, 22 elephants, including some babies, were shot by AK-47 rifles from a helicopter by poachers. Their tusks were cut off for ivory, as was their genitals, for Asian "traditional medicines."
The helplessness of seeing all of these wonderful animals brutally slaughtered and becoming extinct for such stupid, selfish human reasons, along with all the other animal abuses, is causing more grief lately than I can express. Thanks for giving me an opportunity to share my sorrow on here with someone who understands. I'm done rambling for now.
Support bill H.R. 3359 to BAN wild animals in circuses!
http://breakthechainus.com/
it is horrifying that more people don't care. I too get depressed but we can't allow ourselves to do so. Remember we are broadcasting as well as receiving. In order to create the world we want we have to believe it exists. By being and living the way i think a human should, I create a template for a better world. I would love to talk to you outside of this forum, since i often find negativity and a lack of empathy for anyone's suffering here. people like you make the risk worthwhile!
Peace
"Mom's gonna fix it all soon. Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it oughta be."
To quote Wikipedia, "Goodall is best known for her 45-year study of social and family interactions of wild chimpanzees in Gombe Stream National Park, Tanzania. She is the founder of the Jane Goodall Institute and has worked extensively on conservation and animal welfare issues." There has been and continues to be research of Chimpanzees by primatologists of their social structures, this was not a manipulated series of events. Stay for the credits!!!
shareyou all should look at the bonus disc from the blu-ray.. really interesting.. damn what a job.. the parts with all the honey bees.. daaaaaaaaamn..
3 years in the jungle.. phew
you all should look at the bonus disc from the blu-ray.. really interesting.. damn what a job.. the parts with all the honey bees.. daaaaaaaaamn..
3 years in the jungle.. phew